Question:
Professor Roger A. Pielke Sr.: "IPCC Panel is A Clear Conflict Of Interest"?
2007-10-05 10:11:35 UTC
see http://climatesci.colorado.edu/publications/pdf/NR-143.pdf
Five answers:
Dr Jello
2007-10-05 12:27:39 UTC
The IPCC Panel is a political group more concerned with the wording of their work then the actual facts.



If this so called "global warming" were real, you wouldn't need wordsmiths to get he job done, you would just need the facts.



Remember no one argues how computers work. They work because the science is objective, repeatable, and real.



Now the IPCC Panel votes on the final wording and this is taken as real science. So sad to see......
Bob
2007-10-05 10:48:16 UTC
Congratulations. This question is worthy of a skeptic, rather than the others, which have simply been denial.



Pielke Sr. is a retired meteorologist who believes that regional conditions deserve more emphasis than they've been getting. He also believes that, while man is significantly affecting the climate, changes in things like land use are somewhat more important, and man made CO2 somewhat less important, than most scientists.



The bottom line is that he quantitatively disagrees about some of the specifics of global warming, but is not "skeptical" about the concept that man is significantly affecting the climate in an adverse way. He has, in fact, vehemently objected to the term "skeptic" being applied to him.



Here are some of his views from his own website:



"Humans are significantly altering the global climate, but in a variety of diverse ways beyond the radiative effect of carbon dioxide. The IPCC assessments have been too conservative in recognizing the importance of these human climate forcings as they alter regional and global climate." Not exactly a ringing criticism of mainstream thinking.



http://climatesci.colorado.edu/category/climate-change-forcings-and-feedbacks/



His scientific views are worthy of consideration. Complaints about the IPCC - not so much. Those are more idiosyncratic. Membership in the IPCC is not limited to those who accept the mainstream view. However, "skeptics" tend to quit. IPCC works by consensus, which is not the same as unanimity. The views of the skeptics are routinely outvoted by margins of 100:1 or more (similar to the actual division in the scientific world), and so don't make it into the final report. The IPCC report simply reflects the judgment of the scientific community. Including the skeptics views would be like including creationism on a scientific treatise about evolution.



Anyway, Pielke Sr. is worth reading, even if his is a view held by a small minority. He argues using data, rather than simple opinion.



Welcome to the serious discussion.
NLBNLB
2007-10-05 11:45:49 UTC
I wonder wether you can come up in the following day with the contrary statement that the IPCC is one-sided... let´s see.
vladoviking
2007-10-05 10:56:10 UTC
I bet he's mad since he missed out on the Paris an Bancock Junkets
Dana1981
2007-10-05 10:21:48 UTC
*shrug*



He's entitled to his opinion. I'm kind of curious who he thinks should review climate science if not climate scientists.


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