Question:
Why are people falling for global warming!?
Cochy
2007-10-12 10:38:06 UTC
What the heck is going! A stupid moron with money goes out and claims it all to be true, makes millions off of it, has NO meteorological education and people STILL think he is speaking truth? Next thing you know we're up for "global warming taxes." I love how you can buy even certain "experts" into saying this B.S. is true. Everyone panics and throws money at them to "try to solve the problem." Wow.... the media and these rich, private-jet-flying, selfish bastards are the ones that profit. Why can't people educate themselves and realize that man-made global warming is FALSE? I'm a meteorologist myself and I can't help but stare in awe at what has happened to our society...

http://epw.senate.gov/pressitem.cfm?party=rep&id=264777
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/global-warming020507.htm
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,264969,00.html
28 answers:
nacsez
2007-10-12 10:49:49 UTC
I am a physicist, and i know junk science when i see it. This global warming crap is just plain awful science.



FACT: 95% of greenhouse gases are WATER (a fact which these so called climate scientists have neglected to mention)

FACT: human contributions to greenhouse gas levels are less than half a precent

FACT: the earth goes through natural cycles of warming and cooling on the time scale of thousands of years and we are due for a shift

FACT: from a geological perspective, it is only a mater of time until the polar caps melt, the north atlantic current is disrupted, and a global Ice Age begins. we are way over due.



Thank you for standing up for real science and real phenomena which dont get mentioned in the every day nightly news banter. The media really is a giant echo chamber. If someone shouts really loud thats all that people will hear for months to come.



PEOPLE, STOP BEING LEMMINGS!!!! there is just no way we could cause global warming if we TRIED. Its a natural phenominon, which we are powerless to stop or to start.





EDIT: if you look at the site i posted, it clearly does take into consideration the heat capacity of each chemical in the atmosphere and even with HUGE proportionality factors, the anthroprogenic portion of the greenhouse effect comes out to .28%!! while climate scientists may be aware of the precentage of water, and the heat capacity of the elements involved in the green house effect, i have yet to see a public offical or publicized scientific source expound upon these details.

The long count iceages are not the ones i am refering to. it is the "little ice ages" which happen every 10 to 15 thousand year for which we are long over due. during these "little ice ages" of which 4 have already happened, the glacial table covers most of the northern hemesphere and parts of the southern hemesphere and global temperatures drop by as much as an average of 5-7 degrees C.
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2016-10-09 06:29:23 UTC
Dude! My total weekend changed into wasted on the prediction of rain contained in the elements forecast! have you ever any idea how a lot backyard paintings i could have achieved? a lot for predictions by using the folk contained in the understand. So, enable's take a step back and look on the data. No wait, a step ahead. And back... Cha-cha- cha! What changed into the elements in the course of the a lengthy time period of dinosaurs? answer, tropical. And what killed the dinosaurs? An Ice Age. So, what became of the Ice Age? Warming. And contained in the 1400s, there have been massive rains and a cooling that wiped out a century's truly worth of flowers. Hmmm. Does all of us undergo in techniques the Sixties? We were supposedly headed for yet another ice age. back and forth, back and forth. guy, those morons should be on Dancing with the celebrities! Why do human beings fall for those things? because they get some guy to face up and sound like he knows something. they're going to trust everyone who sounds smarter than they're! even with if he's a political candidate!
anonymous
2007-10-12 11:34:33 UTC
Go Trev and Bob

and this comes from a meteorologist

is that to do with meteors?



150.000 people annually fall dead because of Global warming ,this is expected to double soon.



Just because Global Warming does not seem to happen in your living room does not make it any less.



Check out climatic borderlines ,both the hot and the cold places are full of happenings .



But don`t worry when the price of food and beer rises you will have something new to shout about



but who will you shout at ,the government or your God.



who is more to blame

could humanity collectively maybe be partly involved or is that too crazy an idea .



i think you should reread the bible ,thoroughly

you may have missed some subtly reference ,somewhere .that absolves us all from responsibility.



but this in the end becomes academic because even the unbelievers will be affected,now how can that be explained .



and which unbelievers was i referring too ???

lets see if you can guess you know so much.
Peter
2007-10-12 10:54:22 UTC
You raise a very good point. That moron did in fact contribute a lot of greenhouse gas emission by traveling around with this private jet lecturing about global warming. But you can not deny the fact that our climate is changing and the ice caps are melting. The polar bears wants their land back. And million families want their home back from all those flash floods.



Yeah that bone head from last night news said she was a meteorologist too....
Trumpettess Renee
2007-10-12 14:17:30 UTC
Whether it's true of false, does that mean we are just allowed to be pigs and polluters? Is it okay to just spew every kind of toxic material all over because we can't possibly have an impact on the environment? Is it fine to keep destroying whatever we choose because our actions don't have consequences?



The earth is our responsibility, regardless of what "God" you may or may not believe in. We have the capacity and understanding to take care of it and ensure its, and all of its inhabitants, stellar health. At the very least, we should respect it for allowing us to live.



The earth itself isn't going to suffer if we ignore and destroy efforts to create balance. It has been through catastrophic things before and survived just fine.



We will be the ones that pay. The earth will not sustain our existence if something goes wrong. We will all die.



Does the earth care? No. Should we? Better safe than sorry I say.
Trevor
2007-10-12 10:51:05 UTC
You ask "Why can't people educate themselves and realize that man-made global warming is FALSE?"



Those who have educated themselves are almost unanimously agreed that global warming is real. There's about 40,000 climatologists in the world, 6 of them question the role of humans. There's X thousands of scientific organisations in the world, one of them refutes the role of humans.



Seems pretty clear cut, those that are eductaed on the subject agree that we're a contributory factor.



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EDIT: RE NACSEZ (Above)



1) No climate scientist has ever denied that over 95% of greenhouse gases are water vapour (I know, I am one), the proportion is of little relevance, it's the potency (or GWP) that's important. If I gave you a glass containing 95% water and 5% arsenic would you drink it? As a physicist you'll be aware that one atmopsheric unit of say sodium hexaflouride has the same GWP as over one million units of water vaour.



2) Greenhouse gas concentrations have risen by 39% since the onset of industrialisation. For the entire duration that humans have been on the planet CO2 levels have been below 290 parrts per million by volume, today they're 386ppmv. Quit clearly - not half a percent as you claim.



3) You also state the planet goes through natural cycles. Yes it does, and anyone who has studied them will tell you that the current interactions will cause a very gradual warming of the planet - in line with the 0.0001°C per year we saw in the millenia prior to industrialisation, that's a long way short of the 0.0177°C per annum rise we've experienced in recent decades. Further, never have temps been known to rise at even close to the current rate at which they're rising, and we have 542 million years of data to go at.



4) Why state we're way overdue for another ice age. Clearly you know that we are in an ice age, have been for a little over 50 million years, will be for several million more years (unless we screw things up) and won't begin entering the next ice age for approx 70 million more years. If you're talking about glacials and interglacials then we're coming out of one, not going into one, certainly not overdue for another and have the best part of 100,000 years before the next one is due.
anonymous
2007-10-12 11:04:45 UTC
i feel our existing laws are being broken in regards to the ecology.in the first place, since the early 1970's, when a law with teeth was supposedly put into affect about all motor vehichles, i wrote and called senators and reps constantly to jump on the auto and truck industry to come up with a 'leak proof system' that would not allow any fluids to leak on any streets, this crap invades our water.also,i was writing and calling to get a stop to the states that dump the 'manmade road salts' in the winter time as if this crap will rust out a car, then we already know that it is poisoning our water tables as it leeches down into the ground-how yummy that sounds
Christopher H
2007-10-12 10:53:53 UTC
I don't disagree with you. But your tone is alarming. Your negative attacks cannot become constructive or productive. You are pandering to the very thing you criticize when you don't embrace the symbiosis of conversation and discourse. I have been an atmospheric researcher for the past ten years and there has not been any definitive answers given with regards to global warming. As a hypothesy it is valid and worthy of examination. As far as man having the ability to alter weather and the course of humanity, that is up for debate. As a colleague I agree with your supposition, but as a person I don't believe questions formatted as attacks have any place in our society.
Fred F
2007-10-12 10:56:00 UTC
World wide average temperature is up 1 degree.



The National Geographic magazine has a map of the receding glaciers.



People are being displaced from their homes due to the rising water.







The Russians are laying claim to a lot of the polar region.Are

they wanting more Ice?



Shipping companies are thinking about the polar route that will open up.



Just what exactley causes the sun rays to heat up the earth?
Bob
2007-10-12 10:53:09 UTC
Global warming is real and mostly caused by us. The proof is overwhelming. This will be long, and much of the proof is in the links:



This is science and what counts is the data.



"I wasn’t convinced by a person or any interest group—it was the data that got me. I was utterly convinced of this connection between the burning of fossil fuels and climate change. And I was convinced that if we didn’t do something about this, we would be in deep trouble.”



Vice Admiral Richard H. Truly, USN (Ret.)

Former NASA Administrator, Shuttle Astronaut and the first Commander of the Naval Space Command



Here are two summaries of the mountain of peer reviewed data that convinced Admiral Truly and the vast majority of the scientific community, short and long.



http://www.globalwarmingart.com/wiki/Image:Climate_Change_Attribution.png

http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/wg1-report.html

summarized at:

http://www.ipcc.ch/SPM2feb07.pdf



It's (mostly) not the sun:



http://solar-center.stanford.edu/sun-on-earth/FAQ2.html



And the first graph above shows that the sun is responsible for about 10% of it. When someone says it's the sun they're saying that thousands of climatologists are stupid and don't look at the solar data. That's ridiculous.



Science is quite good about exposing bad science or hoaxes:



http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/ATG/polywater.html



There's a large number of people who agree that it is real and mostly caused by us, who are not liberals, environmentalists, stupid, or conceivably part of a "conspiracy". Just three examples of many:



"Global warming is real, now, and it must be addressed."



Lee Scott, CEO, Wal-Mart



"Our nation has both an obligation and self-interest in facing head-on the serious environmental, economic and national security threat posed by global warming."



Senator John McCain, Republican, Arizona



“DuPont believes that action is warranted, not further debate."



Charles O. Holliday, Jr., CEO, DuPont



There's a lot less controversy about this is the real world than there is on Yahoo answers:



http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/home_page/412.php?lb=hmpg1&pnt=412&nid=&id=



And vastly less controversy in the scientific community than you might guess from the few skeptics talked about here:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/306/5702/1686



"There's a better scientific consensus on this [climate change] than on any issue I know... Global warming is almost a no-brainer at this point. You really can't find intelligent, quantitative arguments to make it go away."



Dr. Jerry Mahlman, NOAA



Good websites for more info:



http://profend.com/global-warming/

http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/dn11462

http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science/

http://www.realclimate.org

"climate science from climate scientists"
Shane
2007-10-12 11:39:19 UTC
hell yea! another non-supporter! I personally have nothing against all that theyre doing to help make the environment clean, but when gore goes on preaching to his masses about this 'big problem' i get po'd.



Al Gore’s Global Warming Hoax is COMPLETE BS…



Al Gore has as much credibility on environmental issues, as Bill Clinton has on marital fidelity.



Take a look at Gore’s documentary for example; he exaggerates his figures by 1000%, as proven by one of his former colleagues. He also fails to accurately show the warm period in medieval times of which the years were hotter on average then any other time in history. Truth is, the Earth goes through cycles of warming and cooling, and according to past recordings, we are nowhere near as hot now as it was several hundred years ago in the Middle Ages. He’s telling us all to ride our bikes to work when he flies a personal Lear jet around the world and 4 out of 5 of his houses consume 20 times more energy then the normal consumer.



There’s something wrong here…



The media consists of left-wing deacons.



Thank God for Fox News and Sean Hannity.
Tomcat
2007-10-12 11:01:47 UTC
Any documentary that does not show both sides of the debate is clearly biased and could be considered fraudulent and or political in nature. Numerous serial trolls will continue to make the false statements that there are hundreds or even thousands of scientists that support man made global warming. The fact is there are very few physicists that are qualified to do research on important topics such as solar variability. The so called scientists that support global warming cherry pick research that supports their cause. There is still research and data that supports solar variability as the cause for possibly as much as 60% or more of the warming observed in the twentieth century.





http://www.co2science.org/scripts/CO2ScienceB2C/articles/V9/N24/C1.jsp



EDIT:



Nascez we are overdue for another glacial advance, interglacials last from 10,000 to 15,000 years, contrary to what some people say. Major glacial periods last for around 120,000 years.



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♥ Pompey and The Red Devils!
2007-10-12 12:44:12 UTC
Get it thought your thick head.



Global Warming is REAL!!!



Show me another time in history when CO2 emissions are this high. Show me another time in history where the rainforest's have been this small. Show me another time in history when coral reefs were dying due to a rise in ocean temperature. Show me a time in history when the temperature increased as fast as it is doing now.



When you find those answers, then we will talk.



Wow your a meteorologist. I want to be one and i believe in Global Warming.
Keith P
2007-10-12 13:27:26 UTC
Since you're a meteorologist, how do you explain the long-term cooling trend in the stratosphere, without resorting to an increased greenhouse effect?

http://hadobs.metoffice.com/hadat/images/update_images/global_upper_air.png

http://hadobs.metoffice.com/hadat/hadat2/hadat2_monthly_global_mean.txt

http://cdiac.ornl.gov/trends/temp/sterin/sterin.html



And since you're a meteorologist, how do you explain the long-term reduction in diurnal temperature range, without resorting to an increased greenhouse effect?

http://ams.allenpress.com/perlserv/?request=get-abstract&doi=10.1175%2F1520-0450(1984)023%3C1489:DDTRIT%3E2.0.CO%3B2

http://ams.allenpress.com/perlserv/?request=get-abstract&doi=10.1175%2F1520-0477(1993)074%3C1007%3AANPORG%3E2.0.CO%3B2

http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/clfor/cfstaff/jma/2004GL019998.pdf



I know why oil and coal companies would want to "buy" scientists, like Fred Singer, to tell you global warming is false. Those companies stand to make money if they can convince you otherwise. But who's gonna make money if global warming is true? Who bought all those scientists from Germany, Japan, Australia, Brazil, Belgium, Swtizerland, and two dozen other countries, who wrote this report?

http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/wg1-report.html
anonymous
2007-10-12 12:25:48 UTC
Becasue if someone in power says somthing people always seem to believe it. Global warming is a political issue. The Media tends to slant to the left.
anonymous
2007-10-12 11:31:59 UTC
Why? Garbage in, garbage out.

Many are too myopic to see the myriads of snake oil salesmen hiding behind the snake oil.

Gore/UN push it because money and power can be gleaned from it.
bgee2001ca
2007-10-12 10:41:21 UTC
People are not falling for anything, the question is why are so many people so stupid, and in denial about global warming.
anonymous
2007-10-12 10:43:13 UTC
You have to find some newer sources of information. Your sources have been disproven long ago.



I always find it interesting that the names people throw around are usually the traits people dislike in themselves.
Underground Man
2007-10-12 10:42:07 UTC
So, why again are the Polar ice caps melting if global warming is phony?
Blue Oyster Kel
2007-10-12 10:41:41 UTC
Ss soon as I see someone quoting Fox News, I tend to run. I will not put my faith in a news corporation that stoops to playing dramatic background music behind their stories in an affort to dissuade me to their way of thinking. No thanks.
airetholion
2007-10-12 10:42:18 UTC
Face the facts! It is happening!
anonymous
2007-10-12 10:41:16 UTC
The Government can make anyone believe what they want. Remember Y2K what happened? People believed it and went and waisted a ton of money on crap that they never needed to survive.
Fuzzy
2007-10-12 10:41:53 UTC
ur a meteorologist and not a scientist..... that might be why u can't understand!
anonymous
2007-10-12 10:42:14 UTC
It is completely crazy that someone famous with lots of money can say something is true and everyone believes it!
anonymous
2007-10-12 10:40:44 UTC
why can't you accept reality? must be American.
leena
2007-10-12 10:42:14 UTC
de what are u talkin about?
notyochic
2007-10-12 10:41:08 UTC
amen sister!
ellellelle
2007-10-12 10:41:07 UTC
they want something to believe in OTHER than God himself.


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