Question:
what do you think about the great global warming swindle? If you havn't seen it google it.?
sierra
2007-05-21 23:35:16 UTC
I don't know what to think I mean there are things we do need to change like not useing all our resources and polluting the earth. But is global warming a swindle?
Eight answers:
howtosaveenergy.co.uk
2007-05-22 00:14:37 UTC
Global warming is not a swindle but the documentary is.



The BBC has rejected the the producer Mark Durkin's work previously for the 1998 documentary on breast implants which was later shown on Channel 4. The BBC whose in-house researcher concluded that Durkin had ignored a large body of evidence contradicting his claims in the program.



He is understood to have once been closely involved with the Revolutionary Communist Party and its later offshoots Living Marxism (or LM magazine) and Spiked, a magazine and associated political network which promotes libertarian views, and is highly critical of environmentalism.



In 1997, Channel 4 broadcast Durkin's documentary series Against Nature. The Independent Television Commission concluded that Durkin had misled his interviewees about the nature and purpose of the documentary, and that he had misrepresented and distorted their views by editing the interview footage in a misleading way. For these reasons, Channel 4 later issued a public apology on prime time TV.



Durkin's documentary which argues in favor of genetic modification was broadcast on Channel 4 on March 20th 2000, also met with complaints. A joint letter signed by a number of scientists from the Third World was issued in protest of Durkin's claims in this documentary. Dr. Mae-Wan Ho, a scientist featured on the program, later said of her participation in the program: "I feel completely betrayed and misled. They did not tell me it was going to be an attack on my position."



The Great Global Warming Swindle was a 2007 documentary film which premiered on Channel 4 in the United Kingdom on March 8, 2007. The film has drawn wide-spread complaints from the scientific community, citing numerous errors and misleading claims. Carl Wunsch, one of the scientists featured in the programme, has said that he was "completely misrepresented" in the film and had been "totally misled" when he agreed to be interviewed. He called the film "grossly distorted" and "as close to pure propaganda as anything since World War Two." Wunsch was reported to have threatened legal action and to have lodged a complaint with Ofcom, the UK broadcast regulator.



Wunsch has said that he has received a legal letter from the production company, Wag TV, threatening to sue him for defamation unless he agrees to make a public statement that he was neither misrepresented nor misled.



Dr Armand Leroi from Imperial College London wrote to Durkin on the 9th March 2007 to complain about the distorted science that the programme contained. Durkin's response to Dr Leroi's email was "You're a big daft c*ck". The science journalist and author Simon Singh who was copied in on the email pleaded with Durkin to engage in a meaningful discussion, to which Durkin responded, "...Go and f*ck yourself".



The show attracted 2.5 million viewers and an audience share of 11.5%. Though there have been 246 complaints to Ofcom as of April 25, 2007
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2016-12-11 21:49:31 UTC
The swindle is how the anti-capitalist have hijacked the international warming debate and grew to become it right into a non secular reason. Is the Earth warming? maximum "experts" will inform you it particularly is yet is guy inflicting it? that's very arguable. the concern i detect maximum laughable and unhappy is that human beings that have confidence the earth is warming as a results of fact of guy will evaluate no option and a few are down suited hateful of their attitude. technological know-how is finding for the perfect answer we've suited now, it particularly is a non-quit debate, no longer a faith pushed by potential of religion and AL Gore documentaries.
2007-05-21 23:50:54 UTC
The people who try to make it seem a swindle are those who can't bear the thought that 'the economy' will suffer, and we'll have to change the way we do things that will cost them profits.

They are the ones paying the politicians to delay taking action.

Global warming, which has caused the acceleration of climate change, is a function of human mis-management of our resources, and the sooner we act to alleviate it, the more people will survive.
2007-05-21 23:56:49 UTC
what swindle is this ?

do you mean to say nothing is happening





just for fun i asked a question in polls and surveys and again in religion

who thought Global warming was a lie ,and who was religious ,



granted many people believed in God and also believed in climate change ,



but

the fact emerged that ALL of the people who denied Global warming ,who said it was a hoax ,were without any exceptions ,religious





FACT OR FICTION

many North Americans are used to fiction and they feel more comfortable with fairytales instead of the truth,



Many blindly believe that our fate is in Gods hands ,and their focus is on the beautifull heaven that awaits ,they are not to concerned with the world their children will inherrit



there may come a time that for the sake of our survival the two views will be seperated in to Enemies and friends of the planet



World leaders are not concerned with the well being of the masses ,on the contrary .it was stated at a conference in Copenhagen,in 1998,by An American statesman , that the Agenda demanded a decrease in the world population of 60%,and you cannot achieve this if you start saving everybody.



scientists who work for politicians ,get paid by these politicians and they have downplayed the facts because solutions are expensive and means change



and change effects many peoples incomes,and upsets profit margins,so most of the world is kept in the dark of the real things that are going on.for political and economic reasons



HOWEVER CLIMATE CHANGE IS FACT FOR MILLIONS

Global warming is a very complex collection of many effects



this text only covers some aspects of global warming mainly man made desertification



industrial contamination ,the contaminating effects of the cities ,is another story



there are natural cycles in the planets life

but mans existance has its effects,and this is increasing with overpopulation,putting strains on Natural resources and increasing contaminations as well as destructions of essential componants the ensure living conditions for all life forms



in North Africa,India,Mexico ,millions of people are effected by land loss and desertification and some have died as a result



in china, thousands of what used to be farmers are running for their lives from the dust storms that have burried their towns and turned their lands into dessert,



,the Sahara is growing by 7 kilometers a year

and many of the desserts we know are a results of mans actions ,and they are increasing ,not getting less ,in the dinosaurs days ,there were very few desserts.



collectively this planet is drying up because of bad farming practices like,over grazing and fertilizers,



each degree rise in temperature means 10%crop loss



and there is less and less water (because of deforestation),to irrigate this production ,

and there are less and less farmers to do it..

and there are 70 million more peole every year that have to eat and drink and wash



who are overpumping deep carbon aquifiers

who are plowing more and more unstable lands because they have lost so many million hectares to desertification ,

because of bad farming practises ,such as using fertilizers and heavy machinary or over grazing



RISING SEAS

The northpole is melting ,and we will know it without ice in our life times.

this does not affect the sea level because it is ice that is already in the water.but the melting ice from Green land and the south pole ,are another matter.







http://www.greenpeace.org/international/...



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/natur...







if forrest are being exchanged for ashalt,concrete and desserts

what is gonna keep this planet habitable for us



We as humanity can behave in a less stressful manner as far as the Environment is concerned ,but it will mean global co operation between all countries ,and taking into account human nature and the world politics ,it is unlikely that this will happen, Source(s) Lester E Brown is the director and founder of the global institute of Environment in the United states .he has compiled a report based on all the satalite information available from NASA,and all the information that has

come from Universities and American embassies WORLD WIDE ,

his little book--a planet under stress , Plan B has been trans lated into many languages and won the best book award in 2003
2007-05-21 23:38:47 UTC
Global warming is not a swindle.. how it's being presented is.
jj
2007-05-22 00:18:01 UTC
hmm lets see, since it has been proven that large tree covered areas in cities actually reduce the temperature, while large chunks of forests everywhere are being cleared, it is only logical to assume that the places they are being cleared will heat up, thus invalidating any argument against global warming.
Darwin
2007-05-22 04:09:32 UTC
I know most people will not read this post, they will just give me a thumbs down so here’s a summary of questions for the global warming crowd to think about, these have not been answered or even acknowledged by the global warming community.

- Why does CO2 always rise after temperature?

- Why is Mars warming?

- If temperature is raise by CO2 than why did global temperature drop between 1940 and 1970 while CO2 continued to rise?

- Why is the troposphere cooling if the greenhouse effect is the source of the earth’s warming?

- What about the numerous studies showing the sun is the cause of temperature change?

- Who funds global warming scientists?

- Why is a scientific consensus claimed?

- Why can you still see marks on rocks that mark the water level in the 1800’s?

- Why is the center of the artic and Antarctic ice shelves cooling?

- Why are the same glaciers retreating on one edge and expanding on the other?



The idea of man made global warming is false; it is based on false, misinterpreted, or biased evidence. When “An Inconvenient Truth” came out it was supposed to be the final word in proving global warming exists, but it did not. It was hosted solely by a politician who has no scientific training and presented only 2 graphs. According to these sources almost everything Al Gore claimed was either false or greatly exaggerated.

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/environment/gore.html

http://www.cei.org/pdf/5539.pdf

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/financialpost/story.html?id=d0235a70-33f1-45b3-803b-829b1b3542ef&k=99551&p=1

For a movie that debunks global warming (hosted by actual scientists and presenting more than 2 graphs) look here:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4499562022478442170&q=great+global+warming+swindle

This scientist says it will be a joke in 5 years:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/timaruherald/4064691a6571.html



One of the biggest claims by the global warming crowd is that there is a scientific consensus, this is a blatant and shameful lie. This claim is made to coerce you into belief because there is no opposition, right? Wrong, these 17,000+ scientists would disagree with the idea of a scientific consensus. http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p36.htm

Come to think of it when is the last time you heard that there is a scientific consensus that actually cited numbers? There never has been, people will claim that 90% of scientists agree, this number is made up. Here are the real numbers:

http://w3g.gkss.de/G/Mitarbeiter/bray.html/BrayGKSSsite/BrayGKSS/WedPDFs/Science2.pdf

http://www.staff.livjm.ac.uk/spsbpeis/Scienceletter.htm

It seems there is a scientific consensus against global warming.

Some people will ask if I expect all the scientists who agree with global warming will come out one day and say we were joking, fooled you. No I don’t believe that, this will happen:

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&FileStore_id=c5e16731-3c64-481c-9a36-d702baea2a42

Here’s 21 pages of disagreement:

http://www.climatechangedebate.org/documents/CCD_read.pdf



Here’s some general information on my position.

http://www.abd.org.uk/green_myths.htm

http://www.ourcivilisation.com/aginatur/prog1.htm#suspend

http://www.trac.org.au/cgi-bin/test?page=/myths/top10.htm

http://home.austarnet.com.au/yours/Dont_Believe_Global_Warming.html

http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?ide=4

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_controversy

http://www.fcpp.org/pdf/TimBallJan2607handouts.pdf

http://www.fraserinstitute.ca/admin/books/files/ScienceIsntSettled.pdf

http://www.trac.org.au/myths/GreenhouseHysteria.pdf

http://meteo.lcd.lu/globalwarming/Carter/laying_ten_global_warming_myths.html

http://www.john-daly.com/

http://www.free-eco.org/articleDisplay.php?id=294

http://www.fcpp.org/main/media_file_wm.php?StreamID=536

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/

http://www.bkdesign.ca/blog/reports/global-warming-myth.php



The central claim by the global warming crowd is that human generated CO2 is causing the current warming of the earth, this is false. An ice core sample like the one Al Gore showed actually shows the opposite, temperature rises the concentration of CO2.

http://vortex.plymouth.edu/atmosphere/IceCores1.gif

The global warming crowd hardly ever shows this graph, they will only show graphs of the last 50 years or so, that is because if you take any particular 50 years it appears that CO2 is leading temperature, go ahead try it with the spike 250,000 years ago.

This is because a rise in temperature causes the sea to give up stored CO2:

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-05/teia-csh051107.php

Here’s another ice core study that clearly shows a cyclical pattern in earth’s temperature, we are currently at a warming phase.

http://www.lavoisier.com.au/papers/articles/ninelieslaunch.pdf#search=%22vostok%20figure%20125%22

The main greenhouse gas is water vapor, which accounts for 95% of the greenhouse effect, CO2 only accounts for 3.6%. It makes up only .03% of our atmosphere. Of that only a about 6Gt of that comes from humans another 150Gt comes from animals.

This is the official NASA CO2 center, they have been studying atmospheric CO2 long before global warming was an issue, they conclude that CO2 is not the cause of warming.

http://oco.jpl.nasa.gov/science.html

If the earth was warming due to the greenhouse effect the troposphere would also be warming thus radiating the heat to the surface of the earth, but its not, the troposphere is actually cooling, only the earths surface is heating pointing to a more direct source of warming.

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/temperature/

And the claim that our current levels of CO2 are unprecedented are also false:

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/global-warming051407.htm

If CO2 determines temperature why did the temperature drop between the years of 1940 and 1970 while the concentration of CO2 increased?



The sun is causing our warming along with interplay between the sea currents. For proof look at the fact that mars is also warming.

http://web.dmi.dk/solar-terrestrial/space_weather/

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/Reference_Docs/The_Geologic_Record_and_Climate_Change.pdf

http://www.livescience.com/environment/070312_solarsys_warming.html

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html

http://biocab.org/Global_Warming.html

http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/mgs-092005.html

http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/mgs-092005.html

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2000-03/UoCS-Nrol-1903100.php

http://www.aip.org/enews/physnews/2003/split/642-2.html

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060926_solar_activity.html

http://www.globalwarming.org/article.php?uid=900

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/08/040803093903.htm

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18397549/

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/17jan_solcon.htm



Time to dispel myths of global warming:

1) Last year was the hottest year on record.

False, a number of sources above address this and so does this one

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-329es.html

The world has actually cooled since 1998.

2) This warming is unprecedented.

False the medieval warm period was actually warmer. Grapes were grown in England, trees existed in place where there are now glaciers.

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-329es.html

3) Glaciers are melting.

False, only portions are melting the cores are actually cooling. Some edges are decreasing while other expand.

http://www.globalwarming.org/article.php?uid=192

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2005/03/growing_glacier.html

http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA235.html

4) Sea levels will increase 20 feet flooding costal cities.

False this is a lie by Al gore, even the IPCC does not agree with this. The seas are increasing in some areas and decreasing in others.

http://www.climateark.org/articles/1999/markhotd.htm

http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/content/2004/s1107203.htm

http://globalwarmingart.com/wiki/Image:Holocene_Sea_Level_png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Post-Glacial_Sea_Level.png

5) This current idea is a first climate crisis.

False, in the 1970’s there was a scare of global cooling. A scientific consensus was claimed, evidence poured in, and now, global warming. Hundreds of studies came in supporting the idea but we now know this idea was wrong.

http://www.michaelkubacki.com/cooling.htm

6) Computer models predict further warming.

The computer models are unreliable, they all depend on dozens of assumptions, if any one is wrong the whole model is wrong. Also every model assumes human CO2 causes temperature increase so the outcome is always more warming. Computer models by scientists on the other side predict cooling.

7) The only scientists who disagree are paid by big oil.

This is false, most are paid by non partisan groups. This also begs a counter question, who pays global warming scientists? The answer big environmental companies who make millions off selling global warming materials, alternate fuels, green living products, etc.



Now the IPCC. Some will claim that the IPCC addressed solar impact and natural sources of CO2, they didn’t, see for yourself:

http://www.ipcc.ch/activity/srccs/index.htm

The IPCC is a political organization that knows what it will conclude before it starts its science. It has published a fake graph (the hockey stick graph) and later had to retract the report after THEY admitted it was wrong, yet they still use the graph. Scientists who disagreed with global warming were either excluded or censored.

http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/archives/science_policy_general/000318chris_landsea_leaves.html

http://rpc.senate.gov/_files/Sept1004GlobalWarmingPG.pdf

http://www.john-daly.com/forcing/moderr.htm

http://www.john-daly.com/guests/un_ipcc.htm

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=63ab844f-8c55-4059-9ad8-89de085af353&k=0

http://www.sepp.org/Archive/NewSEPP/ipccreview.htm



If you actually read this post you should at least realize that global warming is not an absolute truth, it is the subject of active scientific debate.
2007-05-21 23:50:13 UTC
it is a great ploy for those in denial.


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