Question:
Is global warming now called climate change actually happening?
Electric Locomotive
2012-04-20 17:22:50 UTC
Recent data indicates the sea levels are falling, the ice caps and glaciers are growing, and the UN wants everyone to give them money and no one will ever know where the money goes. I am sensing it is more about politics and money more than anything else. If it were a true issue, why did the 49 NASA scientists write a letter to the directer telling NASA to stop promoting the agenda??
Eleven answers:
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2012-04-20 17:29:30 UTC
Parden the pun, but that is just the tip of the iceberg.



You are going in the right diection !!!!



Promoting the whole AGW/ACC is a political ideological issue, and nothing to do with science.



If you want to know to know the intent behind AGW/ACC, read the entire answer, and read what they are saying in their own words quoted, so there can be no misunderstandings of their actual intent.



These are a few statements that are legally binding for the countries that surrender their rights to the United Nations Conference Of Parties (COP). Segments of the expose are shown below, and an expanded expose is at:

http://www.climatechangedispatch.com/images/PDFs/UNFCCC-AWGLCA-objective.pdf

(though not a full list of their demands and aspirations)

(the COP is an established organization by the UN for a one world government, and "Convention" is the countries that surrender to the COP through the treaty.)



Page 18, #38 (a)

" The government will be ruled by the COP"



Does the US want a foreign dictator to have absolute rule over society and the economy???



Page 87, #77

"A separate pool of funding to finance national coordinating bodies through a direct line item in the secretariat’s budget shall be established. Such support shall not be subject to measurement, reporting and verification."



Poverty eradication is named numerous times. The COP will have absolute and unconditional authority, and billions of US dollars will be extorted to fund their pet projects and no one will know where the billions will go - i.e. Page 87, #77, second sentence - "Such support shall not be subject to measurement, reporting and verification."



Page 39, #32

"Funds will be under the control of the COP as the supreme authority of the Convention."



The COP will have unconditional, unrestricted power over the economy and society. Why is this stated if it is all about science, and nothing to do with a one world government and absolute global rule???



Page 45, {#46}

(k) Clarifying and securing land tenure and planning – i.e. allocation, ownership and control

over lands and resources;



Yes, they will have legal rights over your properties and public properties.



Page 18, #36

"..adoption and carrying out of public policies, as the prevailing instrument, to which the market rules and related dynamics should be subordinate, in order to assure the full, effective and sustained implementation of the Convention."



Market rules and dynamics subordinate???? This IS what has caused the current global economic meltdown - Market rules and dynamics subordinate.



Page 7, #3

"a major obstacle to efforts to promote [sustainable] economic and social development [and to [reduce] poverty] [eradication] [promote poverty aliviation,] [which are the first and overriding priorities of all developing countries]."



If it about AGW, why is poverty eradication the primary and overriding priority????





How we know what their intent is, is through a congressional hearing in 1963.



Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record

Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963

From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen



11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)



15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.



17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.



29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.





The United Nations is the means by which the whole AGW/ACC issue is promoted, for giving the UN totalitarian dictator rule over all countries that sign the Copenhagen Treaty using AGW/ACC as the excuse (in their own words, not mine).



Whether anyone likes this answer or not, this is the reason why AGW/ACC exists as an issue.

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Erika
2016-11-07 07:36:25 UTC
Is Global Warming Actually Happening
?
2012-04-20 18:32:29 UTC
get your facts rights about sea levels and ice caps. Most glaciers are melting. As for the 49 'scientists' almost all of them do not work on climate and are in fact administrators and engineers. NASA has over 18,000 employees, you are bound to find a few nut cases.

NASA responded:"If the authors of this letter disagree with specific scientific conclusions made public by NASA scientists, we encourage them to join the debate in the scientific literature or public forums rather than restrict any discourse."
Emma
2012-04-20 17:34:18 UTC
Yes, there was an Ice Age.

Yes, there is now a "melt" age.



Climate change isn't just global warming- it's also global "cooling". Temperature changes over time. For example:



1. The North gets cold.

2. Icebergs melt.

3. Cold water travels South.

4. The south gets cold.

5. Without heat to rise North, the North becomes normal once again and freezes back over.

6. Without cold to fall South, the South becomes normal once again and warms up.



This is a constant, normal cycle. But with CO2 emissions, we SPEED UP this process, giving animals and other organisms less time to ADAPT, whereas in natural speed, they would have years and years to get used to the change in climate.



It's not the change we need to worry about, it's the speed in which it's changing.
anonymous
2012-04-20 17:34:59 UTC
Well lets start with the misconceptions. Those werent NASA scientists: they were FORMER nasa scientists. And the really big part: NOT ONE of them was a climate scientist.



What matters is that 98% of climate scientists agree, that climate change is happening, and is caused by human activity. And again, not one person who signed that letter was a climate scientist, which kinda hurts their credibility on climate matters.



Science is a very specific thing you see. For instance, I'm in school studying Microbiology. More specifically, viruses. More specifically, bacteriophage viruses. I could tell you a whole bunch about them. But I could only give you rudimentary information on bacteria or retroviruses.
Jeff M
2012-04-20 17:32:29 UTC
Sea levels are falling? - http://sealevel.colorado.edu/ nope sorry



Ice caps and glaciers are growing? - http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/ Looks like they increased one year in a 24 year downward trend which has ups and downs. Sorry you need a longer time period to find a trend. again, you are wrong.



Your statement about the UN is crazy.



Perhaps, instead, you should realize what global warming actually is? It involves the energy balance of the atmosphere and how the energy balance is being thrown off by increasing heat retention via greenhouse gases.



http://spectralcalc.com/spectral_browser/db_intensity.php



1. Select 'Group by Molecule' if it is not already selected.

2. Select the following in 'Spectral Range': Units - wavenumber, Lower limit - 400cm^-1, Upper limit - 1400cm^-1 (This is the approximate area for the black body radiation curve of the Earth)

3. Select the following in 'Options': 'scale by atmospheric abundance', Atmosphere - standard, Scale - linear, Symbols - sticks

4. From the select menu under 'Species' select the following gasses: H2O, CO2, O3, CH4, N2O (These are the five most prominent greenhouse gasses.)



fter you hit the plot button you can see just how much an effect each gas has as it pertains to it's atmospheric abundance. As you can see the core of the CO2 band is at about 667cm^-1. Now what happens when we increase the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere? To find out we look at a University level text book written by David Archer, a professor at the Department of The Geophysical Sciences at the University of Chicago. Chapter 4 of his book "Global Warming: Understanding the Forecast" deals with greenhouse gasses. If you scroll down to figure 4-5 near the bottom of the following page we can see that, while the middle of the CO2 absorption band remains relatively static after a certain concentration is reached the band does not get deeper but gets wider with increasing CO2 concentration.



http://forecast.uchicago.edu/archer.ch4.greenhouse_gases.pdf



Next we look at the changes in tropospheric, or lower atmospheric, radiation to see what is causing the current warming and if it is actually due to CO2. Griggs et al published a paper in 2006 that built upon their 2001 paper that did just that. If we look at the various graphs on the paper in the following link we see a range of measured frequencies from 700cm^-1, the right hand side of the CO2 absorption band and the point where we will see the most change if the increase is due to CO2, and 1200cm^-1. And, in fact, between the years 1970 and 2003, the study period, we see just that.



http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/JCLI4204.1



You aren't doing any scientific study at all. You're guessing from statements of others that have nothing to do with it or are complete falsehoods without doing any real checking. If you want to learn about science, look at science not politics. Otherwise you're going to be as useless in this discussion as those others who claim the same thing based on their political position. Take Jeffrey Cole for example. What science he does state he flat out lies about.
Phoenix Quill
2012-04-20 20:28:59 UTC
If the Globe were still Warming,

Climate Change would still be called Global Warming.
Maxx
2012-04-20 18:13:28 UTC
Man-made Global Warming is NOT happening, we know this because it's advocates have no empirical science to back their claim. And their advocacy movement has been mired in scandal since its beginning. Here are some things you should know:



1) The Earth has been both much warmer and much colder in the distant past, long before the industrial age. Climate is indeed changing, but it has always changed and probably always will. These are obviously natural cycles that man does not and cannot control.



2) Global Warming alarmist have been caught in one lie after another. Huge scandals have been continuously revealed since the early 1980’s when the campaign began. Some of these are listed below:



3) Al Gore’s movie "An Inconvenient Truth" was full of bald faced lies. Like the Polar Bears were drowning, or the Ice Caps were melting, or the oceans were rising --- all lies. In fact a court of England ruled the movie was so flawed that it could not be shown to school children without a disclaimer.



4) The ClimateGate affair exposed the utter corruption of the Warmist community with their exposed emails speaking of how they intended to “hide the decline” and how to manipulate data and the peer-review process in their favor.



5) Then there is the fact that the globe isn’t even warming anymore and the small amount of warming experienced from the 1900’s to 2001 timeframe was negligible and well within the envelope of normal.



6) During this same period of marginal warming, scientists also noticed that other planets in our solar system were warming. What do these planets have in common ? --- the Sun.



7) Phil Jones, head of the Climatic Research Unit, the Guru and High Priest of Global Warming himself admitted there has been no statistically significant warming. If anyone on the planet would have been aware of statistically significant warming it would have been Phil Jones and he admitted there has been none. (Game Over)



8) Warmist like Al Gore refuse to engage in any formal debate on the issue. That’s because on the few occasions Warmist have debated openly, they lose, and they lose big. Lord Monckton utterly destroys them time and time again.



9) Al Gore and other Warmist have stated clearly that they want to make CO2 the object of a global tax. CO2 is the perfect object for their revenue purposes because you literally cannot live without making CO2, after all, we exhale it. And current science has shown clearly that there is no correlation between the planet’s mean temperature and the concentration of CO2 in the air. Demonizing CO2 is all about the tax dollars, and that’s all its about.



See the scam for what it is and don’t believe any of it.



Polar Bears are doing fine:

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/190805/20110802/polar-bear-global-warming-extinction-climate-change-research-world-wide-fund-wwf-geological-survey-s.htm



Perfect example of Warmist propaganda using polar bears to try and glean sympathy for their global scam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLt0myO8XsA



Phil Jones admits NO statistically significant warming

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/02/15/global-warming-insignificant-years-admits-uks-climate-scientist/



35 major errors in Al Gore’s movie

http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/goreerrors.html



Court rules Al Gore’s movie unfit without disclaimer (11 major errors reviewed)

http://creation.com/al-gores-inconvenient-errors



Graphs showing that CO2 does NOT drive Temperature

http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/correlation_last_decade_and_this_century_between_co2_and_global_temperature/



Warming on Mars -- and Jupiter, Pluto, Neptune

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6544



Lord Monckton destroys Warmist in debate (Video)

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/no_wonder_the_warmists_hate_debate/





For the full story on the man-made Global Warming scam watch these:



The Great Global Warming Swindle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaTJJCPYhlk



Global Warming Doomsday Called Off

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3309910462407994295#



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pegminer
2012-04-20 18:38:19 UTC
Yes, it is, and both terminologies are used.



Why did thousands more NASA scientists NOT write a letter?



All you're doing is ranting, and not in a very convincing way. Take a college class in rhetoric and try again--but somewhere else, please.
Baccheus
2012-04-20 17:41:49 UTC
You haven't the slighted idea what you are talking about; Blame your ignorance on you own failures in school and your lack of reading ability. New information about the changing climate is in the news almost every day. This isn't the UN this is every scientists in the world. The 13 national science academies in the 13 most advanced nations in the world have called the warming of the climate due to human activity "indisputable". So every climate researcher in the world, and every science academy in the world says it is beyond dispute, and we are to pay attention to some failure yahoo on yahoo?



And by the way, you can't even get your terms right. As you no doubt know from your vast reading of scientific research, the term climate change has been used by scientists since Gilbert Plass first papers in 1955. That's 57 years of research behind human caused climate change.



Here's the truth: every climate denier is vastly ignorant of physics and the role of CO2 in climate. Most are are simply poor reader.



http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/04/120401135345.htm

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/04/120419143115.htm

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/business-tech/science/120420/climate-change-causing-european-mountain-plants-move-upwa

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/04/120420092020.htm

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/04/120416135056.htm

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/04/120412121351.htm

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/05/110526141410.htm
te144
2012-04-20 17:37:29 UTC
Are sea levels rising? Ask the Pacific islanders who are vacating their homes and wading thru foot-deep water to board the rescue boats.


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