Do people still believe in Global Warming?

Question

I think we all know that GW was a load of crap, and now scientists are claiming the ozone hole opens and closes all the time. A couple of questions:

+ was the GW scam worth it? There have been massive developments in solar technology since then. But will the govt now tax us to use solar, thus allowing them to make money without producing any outlays?

+ should we believe anything "scientists" tell us?

+ do people still believe in GW? Or was it the new "Y2K"?

Answer 1

The ozone hole DOES open and close all the time at various points in the ozone layer. That is an UNDEBATABLE fact that meteorologists have known for decades. The ozone layer is dynamic, and it grows and shrinks with the changing seasons. That is not news. But, that has nothing to do with global warming - the thinning ozone is a completely different issue all together, unrelated to climate change. I think you really need to review the theory of global warming before you decide whethor or not it is truth, or before you try to debate the issue. Yes, many people accept that global warming is a reality. The issue isn't over, as many right-wing propagandists would like you to believe. No, GW is not the "new y2k". The theory of global warming was developed in the 70's and it still makes sense today. Nobody is suggesting that scientists are to be followed blindly, but they are the only people who study the natural world. When it comes to matters of scientific investigation, OF COURSE I am going to believe a scientist's word over the word of some ingnorant politician, businessman, or Fox News "reporter".

Answer 2

I never did believe in it lol.

It is merely a political construct, Henry Kissinger and President D'Estaing of France came up with the idea, I believe, sometime in the late 60s.

What they felt was needed was an "idea, or a concept" to manipulate the masses, to create a sense of fear in order to promote reliance on the state. Making a fortune from it was an afterthought, roflmao.

What they came up with was the (imagined) destruction of the planet, and who would not be scared by the "end of the world"?

It's all there to be found, I found it and read it on line. Quite by accident tbh, after trawling through reams of other stuff, but there it was. A Eureka moment if ever there was one lol.

Some points.

Name one strategy to save the planet that does not cost the taxpayer.

Ask who is behind/funding all this new "technology"

Check out exactly how much "energy" we are saving.

Are you aware that "energy saving" light bulbs contain mercury and cannot, should not, be simply disposed of?

Solar panels in a temperate climate?

Carbon Tax?

Exorbitant utility prices?

Exorbitant fuel prices?

Need any more?

China and India producing more filth in a day than the UK does in a year?

It is all about the MONEY!!!!

By the way, only in China apparently can they produce the essential component that keeps wind turbines operational.

Whole swathes of rural China are being decimated, their populations are being poisoned in order to extract the said mineral.

Of course we have cyclical climate change, it has been happening for millennia, it is natural.

I am all in favour of reducing waste, of not squandering natural resources and not despoiling the wonderful world we live in.

GW is not about that, instead it is about exploiting the people in the name of greed and the pursuit of profit.

Should we believe scientists?

A hugely popular environmentalist, a "treasure" to the UK, and a renowned scientist, was completely and utterly declared "persona non grata" by the media for publicly "debunking" the erroneous Global Warming scam.

He has never appeared in public anywhere again, what does that tell you?

No matter how big the lie, tell it often enough and the people will believe it.

Poltics is really that simple, hopefully the masses are not.

Answer 3

The question is not whether or not Man caused / enhanced it.



The question is will we start building dikes, or move inland? We have more and more islands sinking into the ocean, regions with major climate shifts, yet we still argue about lines on maps and throw trillions of dollars enforcing them.



Don't *believe* anything a scientist tells you. They don't believe it, they have to challenge everything they believe too. All they can tell you is how something appears to behave.



I think you are asking about AGW, and not just GW. GW is occuring, whether it is the first time since the dinosaurs extinction, and or what-and-how-much Man's contribution is are still being researched. My summer has started earlier and ended later every year for the last 40 years. And my region is net losing rainfall.



Don't waste your breath baiting. Talk to policy please.

Answer 4

Yes everyone at this planet is afraid of Global Warming!

Polluted Sky For Money..

Poor Children Die For..

Corruption is High For..

Lawyer Tells a Lie For..

Now just Think of creating a NEW WORLD OF PEACE AND LOVE!

i.e. a moneyfreeworld

Answer 5

"I think we all know that GW was a load of crap"



No you believe GW is a load of crap doesn't = we all know. Just like the weather outside your house =/ global climate.



Global warming or global climate change is a natural process that has been going on for hundreds of millions if not a few billion years. If you don't believe in climate change you may as well not believe in gravity. It is going to happen if we like it or not.



Will the government tax solar energy. They already do tax it you pay VAT on buying the panels etc. Just like you pay taxes when you buy a car and you pay taxes when you buy a new lawnmower or whatever.



I love the use of "scientists". Yes we should believe what scientists tell us. Or would you rather trust a journalist or a politician? Suprisingly when it comes to science I would rather listen to a scientists.



100% of climate scientists believe in GW in that global warming is a rise in the mean annual temperatures globally. If they didn't they wouldn't have a job as climate scientists study climate change. The vast majority of those climate scientist believe in AGW. There is consensus on the existence of AGW and has been for quite some time. However the way its reported in the media you wouldn't think there is.



@ Dig doug "Notice how it has changed from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change"? "



This was done because even though we are on a warming trend and so global warming is correct too many people focused on the warming part and not enough on the global. Too many people went well we got 6 feet of snow this winter global warming is crap!. Global climate change has no such problem and is easier to understand. The world might be warming on average but some areas will get hotter, some will stay more or less the same and some might even get colder. Thats the problem with the term global warming people don't understand the global part.



@ Sandie "In the seventies, we were warned that the next Ice Age was coming due to Global Cooling, spring forward 30 years & all of a sudden the papers are full of Global Warming."



That is because the understanding and the technology changed. We were warned about the next ice age because they thought that the melting of the polar ice caps would lead to the gulf stream collapsing and this would bring on another ice age. I am quite happy that things have changed over the last 30 years as the means the science has evolved. There are many many many fields of science where the thinking of 30 years ago has changed because of the new evidence found since then.

Answer 6

Yes we should believe what real scientists tell us (not government employed men in white coats), if there is significant evidence to support the theory.



And I prefer people to say Climate Change instead of Global Warming, as it's a fact that not all parts of the world are warming up; nevertheless, it is a fact that the climate is changing, hence Climate Change should be used.



Finally, I wouldn't put it passed the government to start taxing us for solar, especially with the current economic climate.

Answer 7

1.) some still cling to the misinformation presented to "prove" AGW/ACC exists.



2.) worth it? Only to those promoting it - they make billions and trillions at our expense.



3.) Few understand that renewable and green energies is only a money pit pet project for some, at our expense.



4.) The new disaster/catastrophe is that we are going into another ice age. But fortunately it is only about 2 to 3 % of scientists claiming that.



more than 55,000 scientists world wide - 31,478 in the states alone http://www.petitionproject.org - know that AGW/ACC is only misrepresentation of data and facts, and illusion, and/or bad science.



Other sources are The Heritage Foundation, and The Heartland Institute. Here are six publications to show that human CO2 emissions let alone the 42.66 times the amount of volcanic venting, is not causing climate change. Mr. Gore owns Generation Investment Management to buy and sell carbon credits. His movie was an infomercial, no where near being a documentary or real science. Dozens of his claims can easily be debunked.



There are still many many reputable scientists - they are ignored by the media, or vilified and demonized for stating documented empirical evidence, so few speak out.



Atmospheric levels of CO2 had been measured at 550 ppma in 1813 - which I think is a little higher than the current 395 ppma levels. Why does Mr. Gore claim CO2 levels haven't been as high as today for hundreds of thousands of years? CO2 ranged from 300 ppma to 7700 ppma with an average of 1200 to 1500 ppma for 599.2 million of the last 600 million years. Why wasn't the planet 50 or 60 degrees hotter like the true believers claim will happen if CO2 were at those levels? If CO2 were more than doubled to 800 ppma from current 395 ppma, the temperature increase will only be at most 0.05 C (1/20 degree C) and only influenced at night.



There are dozens and sdozens of other empirical evidence facts I can present, that more than 55,000 scientists world wide agree with.



5b.) It is not the new Y2K - it is another AC electricity will kill us all, according to Mr. Edison who electrocuted animals including an elephant to "prove" AC electricity was dangerous, and to use his DC electric patents. It is the "Competetors do not have homogenous steel" according to Andrew Carnegie, who made millions selling steel rails to railroads; no one ever bothered to ask what homogenous means - a blending of like materials. How can you have steel that is not homogenous; a blend if materials to be an aloy (steel is an aloy. Iron is an element)? There are dozens of other situations that someone lied to "prove" a point for monetary gains as Mr. Gore has done.



These six publications explain the issue well.

Answer 8

Wow... a load of crap? "scientists"???? Why did I go to uni for 4 years to be a "so-called scientist"? The problem is people believing what politicians and the media tell them about science, so why are scientists always the ones that cop the flack? Science is about facts, not profiteering off of stories we all sit around and imagine. The global warming debate is done in the science community, and "we" don't think its crap; the theory of global warming is not disputed by any scientific bodies of national or international standing. Its taught in the uni curriculum, just like the theory of relativity and the theory of evolution. You could try not believing anything scientists tell you, start with jumping off your roof whilst not believing in gravity... and then not complaining about your broken bones because you don't believe in human physiology.



There's also this little thing called the precautionary principle, which says that the cost of doing nothing in case we're right is lower than the cost of complacency. This basically means, "it can't hurt, right?" To use your Y2K example, if you hadn't installed that patch just in case your computer crashed in 2000, and then they had been right, you would have kicked yourself!



Weaning ourselves off of fossil fuels and learning to lower our consumption and wastage are not bad things to do anyway, whether or not you "believe". Consider this, China and India are the two countries with the highest populations, and are both racing towards being "developed" nations. When they reach this point they are likely to want all the little luxuries we have already, iPhones, plasmas, three gaming consoles, computers for each room etc etc etc. If in 2011 we still can't manage to feed all the children of the world, what happens in X years when India wants its SUV's? The distribution of resources is uneven, and western nations are living well beyond their means; this problem is undeniable even for climate change skeptics. Essentially what I'm saying is that arguing over the fact or fallacy that is Global warming is time-wasting. We need action either way, dealing with global warming at a global scale is a great way to cut back our consumption, and deal with world issues.

Answer 9

Sorry, AGW is becoming more and more firmly established as more and more data is collected. Only a few hard core deniers remain. The rest of the world is already moving forward. The US, as yesterdays empire is still in denial. Your problem.

Answer 10

The hole in the ozone layer is completely different to global warming.



Anyone with an ounce of scientific literacy is able to observe the existence of global warming. The only debate was over the extent to which it was caused by human activity; a debate which has been largely resolved by an overwhelming body of evidence. If you turned off the media outlets that make money by generating controversy for its own sake and picked up a respectable scientific journal you would know this.



In terms of whether people "still" believe it: here in the UK, an ICM poll found this year that 83% of the adult population consider man-made climate change a significant threat. The figures are similar throughout Europe, with 73% identifying it as a serious threat to themselves in Latin America. The only places on earth where people are not aware of the reality of climate change are in developing nations, where there is limited literacy and little widespread scientific education, and conservative America. Fully 97% of professional, publishing US scientists believe that global warming is real and man-made.



Many governments in the Western world actually pay out grants to homeowners and businesses to install solar panels. As these are designed for immediate domestic use, it's pretty hard to see how on earth they could be used to generate revenue, unless you're determined to wilfully misunderstand the technology forever. And even if they could, the cost to your tax bill of ignoring global warming - re-engineering water supplies, replacing infrastructure ruined by extreme weather and the costs of massive displacement in the agricultural sector for starters - would dwarf anything that the paranoid shock-jocks have come up with to bleat about.

Answer 11

Global warming is a fact but the causes are not, the Earth has warmed up and cooled down since the formation of the Planets, that is why we have had several ice ages and several warming up periods where the ice melts, the last ice age ended about thirteen thousand years ago and we are still warming from that time, the ice drove early man from what is now called the UK and they migrated south to get to warmer climates, when the ice over the UK started to thaw early man just went back, various governments have used claims that motorised vehicles are the cause of global warming to raise taxes but the fact are that vehicle emissions do not help, they are far from being the main cause, in fact it is herbivores that are the biggest green house gas offenders, the flatulence caused by what they eat far outweighs motor car emissions, in any case, what little bit of help that the UK does in reducing it`s emission is irrelevant, China, India, Russia and America are still producing many thousand times that of the UK, our policies of reducing our footprint is meaningless while other countries continue pollute as they do, overall though, GW is a natural occurrence and there is nothing that we can do to stop it with what we know today.

Answer 12

Global warming is no different than any other issue. If it is possible to exploit it and make money from it, someone will find a way to do it.

Answer 13

yes, some people believe. How do you not realize how important finding and devloping alternate energy sources is? Even without gw we still need it. Also, i'm not saying gw doesn't exist, that humans don't affect the te,mperature on earth. I don't know. How can you say for sure when you are wondering if you can believe scientists? Who's telling you it doesn't exist? Scientists. At any rate we do need to find cleaner ways of producing stuff, because we leave too much trash pollution and hazardous conditions in our wake.

Answer 14

They ARE taxing us NOW! Every time they give the wealthy a big subsidy tax break to buy a solar system, it is taking our taxes out of the system and making us pay more!



I hate it. If we are going to give tax money away, why not give the solar system to a single mom trying to make a living. We also give rich people huge subsidies to go buy Cadillac Escelades! Why? They can afford cars anyway. If we are going to subsidize, at least use my tax dollars on people that need it!



Via subsidies of all kinds, we are being taxed to death!

Answer 15

The fact that you think that ANY scientist has EVER said that global warming was caused by a hole in the ozone layer makes it woefully obvious that you don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about.



Hint: look up the term 'greenhouse gases' before you make a fool of yourself on the next website you go ranting on.

Answer 16

The number of long answers would seem to suggest that it does .

Certainly a lot of hot air expounded.

Answer 17

I don't understand why you are dismissing something there's direct evidence for. I have heard nothing that discounts global warming. I believe it's defined as a raise in temperature, which has been well documented. Whether their projections are correct or not, I can't say, but it's hard to argue with the data that shows a temperature increase.



I have heard of melting ice on mountains and glaciers, that has not occurred before in recorded history. There's been recent conferences on it, such as one in Cancun in 2010. Clearly many scientists still seem to be concerned. Are you a scientist, and are able to explain why suddenly, there's no more concern?



The questions in my mind are...

1) Are humans causing directly causing it?

2) If we are, can we now reverse it?

Answer 18

Let me guess.... you think scientists have been stating that global warming is caused by the ozone hole? Perhaps you need to do just a tad more studying on the subject.

Answer 19

From what I have learned in school, Global Warming is very real and dangerous. I believe in it. Pollution is everywhere, can you not see? Can you not see the waters? Many times, they aren't even clear! They are tainted, stained. Don't you see the cars running around, freeing gases? Have you ever thought of the massive amounts of crap that we send out every day?



So I respond to your question: Do people still not believe in Global Warming?

Answer 20

In the seventies, we were warned that the next Ice Age was coming due to Global Cooling, spring forward 30 years & all of a sudden the papers are full of Global Warming. Of course it was codswallop. Englands' lovely coastline is now blighted in parts by giant wind machines which expend more energy than they make, mind you they make a mint in government subsidies for the farmers who's fields they are on - money for old rope.

Answer 21

I remember that it used to be all the rage in 2004-2007. Not so much now.

Answer 22

It is to be realistic to check on true with truth. The atmospheric environment is always variable .

Believe and theories are worth nothing but the fact or Scientific law is always acceptable.

Answer 23

We should still beware of Global Warming.

Answer 24

Global Warming? Eh, maybe.

Global warming caused by man? I never bought into that crap.



Give it a decade or two and the same idiots will be panicking about global cooling. Notice how it has changed from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change"? That's no coincidence. That's to prepare us to respond to whatever horsesh*t is next. Warmer, cooler, doesn't matter, they'll still want to make our lives difficult using that as an excuse.

Answer 25

There are those who deny global warming.

There are those who deny the moon landings.

There are those who deny the holocaust.

There are those who deny the existence of God.

Unfortunately, the long term lunatic asylums were closed down in the 1960s and these people are now free to walk the streets.

Answer 26

Yes - the majority of College Graduates do believe in

Global Warming. The less educated are less convinced.

Answer 27

Global warming surely exists.

Answer 28

Educated non-liars do NOT "know" your silly copy-cat lies.

Answer 29

No it is just a

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Way of life now

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Answer 30

global warming is rael phenomenon

Answer 31

no idea