What is more "alarmist": massive communist conspiracy, or radiative forcing of CO2?

Question

Seems to me that the theory that thousands of scientists from 100+ countries are promoting an unfathomably large and perfectly silent conspiracy, all for the purpose of furthering some dark-hearted global UN conspiracy to turn the entire world into an Orwellian communistic state, is quite an "alarmist" claim.

Much more alarmist, anyway, than using 100-year old physics to predict that the copious emissions of a well-known greenhouse gas might lead to planetary warming.

Who are the real "alarmists" here?

Answer 1

Both are very alarming claims. Frankly it's more alarming that we could be headed toward catastrophic climate change than if there's some sort of ridiculous conspiracy theory going on. Such a conspiracy theory would be alarming, but we'd move past it eventually. If the climate changes in a catastrophic manner, we're all in very big trouble.



However, and alarmist claim is one which is unjustifiably alarming. Almost all scientific experts agree that we're headed toward catastrophic climate change in a business as usual scenario, because that's what the scientific evidence indicates. It's alarming to say so, but not alarmist.



To claim that there's a massive conspiracy among all of the tens of thousands of climate scientists on the planet - even those who are "skeptical" but don't claim it's all a hoax - is utterly absurd. Not only is it alarming, but it's alarmist.

Answer 2

A claim itself, generally, is not what's alarmist. Alarmism is what someone does with the claim.



Global warming is not an alarmist claim. A media blitz designed to scare people into watching is. The conspiracy theory against global warming is not inherently alarmist, but it certainly leads down that road very quickly if you add on the claim of an Orwellian superstate.



The bigger question is: what's the evidence in favor and against? As it stands, the evidence in favor of global warming is strong, and this talk of alarmism is a red herring. If the truth is alarming - and global warming's evidence is pretty alarming - then that's what it is.



We should not be terrified about global warming; terror is unproductive. We should just act rationally, and make whatever corrections we reasonably can to deal with it.

Answer 3

Yeah.



It is the real cause of global warming that Mars is on a close orbit with the Sun and Earth (happens once in sixty-thousand yrs) and its gravity provocates higher solar activity.

CO2 could be drasticaly reduced by open pacific sea fields fertilized by cultured plankton, or seaweed.

Not just harvesting but planting seaweeds in the waters

is even further beneficial to solve global nutrition deficiency problems.

One more church or action Mr. Gore?

Answer 4

It's not alarmist to say to the communists that they're communists.



If global warming skeptics who belive this is part socialist plot ran around to all the other people in the world trying to make them afraid of you, that would be alarmist.



Simply pointing to the promoters of socialism that they're really supporters of socialism, isn't alarmist.

Answer 5

I agree. People who don't take threat of global warming serously seem to think of it as a short term non-event, rather than looking at it as a problem that takes decades to centuries to manifest.