Question:
Climate Change doubters?
yoyodavis
2011-01-13 13:51:45 UTC
I took climate change as a fact due to the effects i could see it having on the world, but after seeing some of the questions and answers on here, is it true that climate change could really be a hoax made for money by the leaders of countries?
Twenty answers:
King Ragnor of Waterford
2011-01-13 14:05:04 UTC
Climate change is not the problem, that happens in various degrees over decades and centuries, always has and always will.

Global warming and CO2 is the hoax, there are natural occurences in the planets physical systems, like tectonics, that have a larger effect on the climate than any of puny mans emmissions.
Walaka F
2011-01-13 19:29:52 UTC
No hoax. Its Real. Linlyons, and others have provided the science for you. Here is a non science reason why the idea of a conspiracy, hoax it not realistic.



a] This is not something just being discussed in one country or small group of countries, it is being discussed across the globe in all countries of all political sorts from dictators to communists to democracies. Does it make any sense for this to be a conspiracy? It would require some incredibly large number of conspirators to keep that going for 50 yrs and more, because AGW goes back some 50 years as a matter of concern, its not some new fashion fad. Remember also that many of these countries are mutual enemies of each other....yet we are expected to believe they co operate to keep this conspiracy? mmmmm.



Its all so Governments have an excuse to tax more......Sorry governments don't need excuses for that they just do it if they want. Do you really think the Chinese government needs to have some mega conspiracy to raise taxes?



Governments across the globe do not all agree on what to do and how to do it, but they do all agree that AGW is real and a danger.



Even some of the large multi national corporations see it as a problem and certainly accept it as real.

The world's biggest mining company told the Australian government that a 'Carbon Price' would be a good thing...and Coal is one of their main products!
Lizzie
2011-01-13 14:55:09 UTC
I don't know about the rest of you, but I see the climate changing all over the world. Is it a scam, or a way for someone to make money off it? I guess some people can find a way to make money off of anything, real or fake. I believe there are profound changes going on to our planet, it is evident in all of the increasing earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes, winter blizzards, flooding, etc. Can it be a hoax? Maneuvered by who?

It is always better to take care of our planet by recycling, having cleaner burning fuel, not dumping nuclear waste into our oceans etc. than to keep abusing our planet and thinking that she will keep on taking care of us while we abuse her. The polar caps are melting, and polar bears can't swim far enough to get across the ice anymore, they are drowning. We are destroying the rain forests that benefit this planet in ways that we can't even comprehend. The list of death and destruction to our planet goes on and on, is that a hoax? Do you not believe it's happening? Should we all just close our eyes and put our head in the sand and pretend that it's not happening? Yeah, maybe that will save us. Maybe, the ones saying that it's a hoax are the very people that are profiting off the destruction of our natural resources. They are the ones making money here, not the ones that are screaming at the top of their lungs that our planet is dying at our own hands.
MTRstudent
2011-01-14 05:58:46 UTC
Anyone can say what they want on the internet, they don't have to be right.







You can either trust the people suffering from intellectual denial on here, who will never admit global warming is true until their political ideology thinks it's useful, or on a scientific issue you could go with the vast majority of scientific evidence (and scientists).



Sure, 30,000 scientists have signed a petition saying that the Kyoto protocol is useless, but that is about 0.3% of US scientists. In polls, 80% of scientists and 97% of climate experts think that human caused global warming is real. (STATS survey + Doran & Zimmerman survey).
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2011-01-13 15:47:21 UTC
You can go to Bacheous, Lynlions, Dana, Richard the Physicist etc, or just about any alarmist and look at some of his/her previous answers. You will find a very obvious pattern, they are all on the extreme left politically. They think their politics rises to the level of science. It doesn't. As a geologist, I know very well that the climate isn't stable. Ask yourself why do alarmists try to convince people that it was stable until humans came along? The reason is that they are using it to push their far leftist agenda that would not be popular with the vast majority of the people. These leftists can't be honest. They know they are on the wrong side of the electorate or at least their leaders do. Some (probably most that post here) are useful idiots and some are simply not very knowledgeable on science or history. They are convinced they know far more than they do. The fact is, there is far more that we don't know than we know. We don't know what the CO2 concentration would be without human emisisons. We don't know what the effect of those emissions are. Alarmists rely on models that are based on numerous assumptions some of which are little more than wild guesses. There is a lot of money out there rewarding the alarmists who can generate the most alarm and that money pushes the junk science along. I wouldn't call it a hoax. I would call it exaggeration and psuedoscience and politics.
2011-01-13 14:59:05 UTC
There has been a very well funded disinformation campaign designed to lead people to doubt the evidence of Global Warming, Anthropogenic Global Warming and Climate Change.



- On Global Warming, there is a lot of disinformation that states that scientists have cherry picked temperature data and excluded certain monitoring stations and even that scientists haven't accounted for things like the urban heat island effect. Of course all of those things are easily debunked, yet the claims keep on rolling in, generally as if they are cut and pasted directly from a "skeptic" website or quoted verbatim from a Fox News program.



- On Anthropogenic Global Warming, there is a lot of disinformation about man's contribution to the rising CO2 levels, CO2's role as a greenhouse gas, feedbacks, etc. Doubters will often parrot things said by Monkton or other professional "skeptics". These claims are all usually exceedingly easy to debunk as well.



- On Climate Change, there is also a great deal of disinformation. "Skeptics" (often the same ones that claim there is not warming in the first place) will claim that the climate isn't changing or they will dismiss the change as minor. They may also claim that because they are having cold weather that their climate is getting cooler and therefore scientists must be lying or at least stupid and wrong. Once again, it's all easy to debunk.



Check out this YouTube channel or you can take a look at this website:

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=greenman3610#g/u

http://www.skepticalscience.com/Newcomers-Start-Here.html

Both very soundly debunk most of the myths that the "skeptics" repeat from their propaganda...



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MusicMan
2011-01-13 14:01:42 UTC
I don't think that climate change (ie global warming due to carbon waste) is hard science, but I don't think it is a hoax either. I don't think that it is as extreme or inevitable as some of the people who want to save our planet lead us to believe.

I do think that we have to do our best to minimize pollution or we will make the earth a more miserable place to live. A clean world is definitely better than a dirty world.



I guess I don't think we are headed for an environmental apocalypse, but I do think we need to be very cautious about pollution.
pegminer
2011-01-13 16:21:44 UTC
No, it's not a hoax. The only people that say that are either uninformed or liars. Scientists like Roger Revelle were warning about this more than 50 years ago.
netbattler15
2011-01-13 13:59:54 UTC
If climate change is a hoax, why does the temperature swing as much as 10 or 20 degrees every day? Answer me that, science!!!
Baccheus
2011-01-13 14:50:13 UTC
If it is, it has be a conspiracy of every climate scientist, every physicist and every publish and editor of every science journal in the world.



Understand that there are no current climate scientist who does not believe man is not causing the world to warm. It is agreed without dispute, so if it is a hoax then there is no scientist is not world who is not in on it



If the molecules of greenhouse gases do not redirect long-wave radiation back to the earth's surface, them we have no clue as to why the earth is warm enough for life. And if they do, then we'd have to explain how an increase of 40% wouldn't redirect more of that radiation.



The truth is that climate change is real and it is caused by man. There is no doubt about that. Deniers are merely working under the mistaken assumption that their being ignorant of scientific facts will change those facts. If you are interested in the depth of indisputable evidence, people here can provide that for you.
2011-01-13 14:11:34 UTC
Show me a period of time when the climate wasn't changing.
Richard the Physicist
2011-01-13 14:10:22 UTC
No, it's not a hoax. And, stating it's a hoax is just a "red herring."



http://climate.nasa.gov/



http://dels.nas.edu/Report/Advancing-Science-Climate-Change/12782



wormwar stated "Show me a period of time when the climate wasn't changing."



Still more red herrings from doubters!
Dustin A
2011-01-13 17:18:06 UTC
yes
Facts Matter
2011-01-13 14:05:42 UTC
Go to Google scholar (free addon). Type in Climate Change. You will get about 1,810,000. hits.



That's a LOT of conspirators!
liberal_60
2011-01-13 14:09:29 UTC
Who do you trust?

NASA, NOAA, Scientific American Magazine, National Geographic Magazine, Science Magazine;

or

Anonymous and undocumented questions and answers here on YA?



Is this really hard?
?
2011-01-13 14:00:55 UTC
"I took climate change as a fact due to the effects i could see it having on the world"



Who are you gonna believe - me, or your lyin' eyes?
2011-01-13 14:23:34 UTC
It would be a bit more nuanced than that, but yes.
95% will see no tax increase
2011-01-13 14:13:04 UTC
does al gore looked concerned to u. sexually assaulting massage therapist, mansions, private jets....
2011-01-13 14:00:35 UTC
Maurice Strong started the whole scam and he has plenty of minions and money changers.
2011-01-13 13:57:03 UTC
It is indeed a hoax.It's all designed to bring down our economy.



EDIT: What temperature changes we are going through,it is a natural cycle.It's not ''global warming''.


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