Should I be labelled a 'denier' for claiming the earth's interior is only about 5,000 degrees instead of the millions as stated by al Gore?

Question

The inventor of the internet (pbuh) also told the U.N. that cigarette smoking causes global warming. Anyone who says otherwise is clearly anti-science, so what's the verdict?

Answer 1

Well, the first point I'd make is that you can claim whatever you want. If you want to go around saying that the interior of the earth is only 5,000 degrees then no one is going to stop you. If you want to go around saying that the interior of the earth is hollow and inhabited by a lost population of dinosaurs, then fine!



Now, Al Gore is/was, I dunno, a US politician. I vaguely remember him running for a presidential election. Other than that, as a non-US citizen, my interest in anything Al Gore says is pretty minor. Unless it's about politics. That's because on issues of science, I prefer to listen to scientists. I think they're the ones who know what they're talking about. Did Al Gore make a mistake by saying the temperature of the core of the earth is millions of degrees? I dunno. I didn't see the interview. But based on what I googled just now, yes, it seems he did. Oh well.



The real issue here is why, on the issue of climate change, some people are obsessed with what Al Gore says rather than the thousands of scientists across the globe who have been examining the issue for 40 years. The obsession with Al Gore tends to suggest that the opposition to the concept that our planet is warming and we're responsible has more to do with the particular political persuasion of people rather than a hard, cold, rational examination of the scientific evidence produced by professional scientists from all over the globe.



So no. You shouldn't be labelled a denier. On the issue of the temperature of the earth's interior, Al Gore is wrong. STOP THE PRESSES!! Non-scientist makes mistake on scientific issue not related to climate change during a conversation with a chat show host in which he was speaking off the cuff! Wow. What an in-depth analysis of the thousands of climatology papers published each year ...

Answer 2

According to all of the alarmunists here, you shoudl be called a "denier" any time you say anything that contradicts what they say.



This is not a discussion about science. It would be nice if it were a discussion about science. The alarmunists, unfortunately, care so little about science, that they pretend science is nothing more than a popularity contest. They would much rather talk about some false consensus, than facts.



The level of their anti-science depravity is shown in their use of the word "denier". They use it as an insult when trying to make the connection to holocaust deniers, but worse they use it to stifle skepticism.



To deny mean that you are rejecting something known. Most everything they are talking about people rejecting are possible future consequences. It is literally impossible to deny the future, because that would inherently imply that the future is known.



Fighting skepticism with absurd name-calling, is simple not the tactic chosen by people who actually do care about science.



Fighting skepticism with evidence, on the other hand, is the chosen method of people who care about science, and you can see how few of the alarmunists ever choose this method.

Answer 3

No, you would get labeled a denier for all the other lies and scientifically illiterate things you say.



Al Gore is not a scientist and never was. Clearly what he said in Kano's link is incorrect. Big deal, don't believe ANYTHING he says on science if that makes you happy--but what about what all the scientists say?

Answer 4

I remember when he said that because someone quoted that science genius Algore. It gave me a pretty good laugh. I saw him say it, and I remember it well and now we have alarmists suggesting he didn't say it. I think you should cut him some slack. He is still probably among the most scientifically literate alarmist but it would have to between him and Leo Dicrapio.



Anon can't help but come to the defense of Gore even if there is no defense. It is revealing when they show how many hoops they will jump through to come to the defense of one of their fellow leftists.

Answer 5

in this section we refer to people who deny the scientific consensus (that mankind's emissions of greenhouse gases cause the earth to retain more heat) as "deniers"... you disagreeing with al gore especially when he was obviously wrong as he was in that 2009 interview with conan, would by itself not warrant labeling you a denier...



we all make mistakes from time to time for example:

you are wrong that al gore invented the internet...

you are wrong that al gore told the u...n... that cigarette smoking causes global warming...



repeating those debunked assertions suggest that referring to you as a "skeptic" would be equally unwarranted...



@graphicconception



when asked to describe what distinguished him from his challenger for the democratic presidential nomination, senator bill bradley of new jersey, gore replied (in part):



"during my service in the united states congress, i took the initiative in creating the internet... i took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system..."



in context, gore's response (which employed the word "created," not "invented") was clear in meaning: "the vice president was not claiming that he "invented" the internet in the sense of having designed or implemented it, but rather that he was one of the visionaries responsible for helping to bring it into being by fostering its development in an economic and legislative sense...



to claim that gore was seriously trying to take credit for the "invention" of the internet is, frankly, just silly political posturing...



@ jimz



you wouldn't recognize a fact unless it had "republican" plastered all over it...

Answer 6

in this section we refer to people who deny the scientific consensus (that mankind's emissions of greenhouse gases cause the earth to retain more heat) as "deniers"... you disagreeing with al gore especially when he was obviously wrong as he was in that 2009 interview with conan, would by itself not warrant labeling you a denier...



we all make mistakes from time to time for example:

you are wrong that al gore invented the internet...

you are wrong that al gore told the u...n... that cigarette smoking causes global warming...



repeating those debunked assertions suggest that referring to you as a "skeptic" would be equally unwarranted...



@graphicconception



when asked to describe what distinguished him from his challenger for the democratic presidential nomination, senator bill bradley of new jersey, gore replied (in part):



"during my service in the united states congress, i took the initiative in creating the internet... i took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system..."



in context, gore's response (which employed the word "created," not "invented") was clear in meaning: "the vice president was not claiming that he "invented" the internet in the sense of having designed or implemented it, but rather that he was one of the visionaries responsible for helping to bring it into being by fostering its development in an economic and legislative sense...



to claim that gore was seriously trying to take credit for the "invention" of the internet is, frankly, just silly political posturing...



@ jimz



you wouldn't recognize a fact unless it had "republican" plastered all over it...

Answer 7

The temperature of the center of the Earth is generally accepted to be around 10,800 degrees Fahrenheit.



You are free to say it is any temperature that you like.

Answer 8

From other than a global denier website?

Answer 9

here lyn listened to it from his own lips

latest estimates put it at 6000 degrees c



edit

al gores money came from tobacco farming...

Answer 10

No links, no credibility.

It is 97% for sure that questioner is an ignorant denier indeed.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_denial

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_of_Doubt

http://www.sharonlbegley.com/global-warming-deniers-a-well-funded-machine

http://jcmooreonline.com/2013/01/31/engineering-climate-denial/

http://www.desmogblog.com/global-warming-denier-database

Answer 11

Here Lyn listened to it from his own lips

https://www.google.com.ph/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwicxerEmYTQAhXBOo8KHcnbBXYQtwIIHDAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D14kNtnJgXXM&usg=AFQjCNF4Q57IIAKZun88FvgBM-Qx_90-Aw

Latest estimates put it at 6000 degrees C



Edit

Al Gores money came from tobacco farming.

Answer 12

Gore never said any such thing.

Answer 13

In this section we refer to people who deny the scientific consensus (that mankind's emissions of greenhouse gases cause the earth to retain more heat) as "deniers". You disagreeing with Al Gore especially when he was obviously wrong as he was in that 2009 interview with Conan, would by itself not warrant labeling you a denier.



We all make mistakes from time to time for example:

You are wrong that Al Gore invented the internet.

You are wrong that Al Gore told the U.N. that cigarette smoking causes global warming.



Repeating those debunked assertions suggest that referring to you as a "skeptic" would be equally unwarranted.



@graphicconception



When asked to describe what distinguished him from his challenger for the Democratic presidential nomination, Senator Bill Bradley of New Jersey, Gore replied (in part):



"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system."



In context, Gore's response (which employed the word "created," not "invented") was clear in meaning: "the vice president was not claiming that he "invented" the Internet in the sense of having designed or implemented it, but rather that he was one of the visionaries responsible for helping to bring it into being by fostering its development in an economic and legislative sense.



To claim that Gore was seriously trying to take credit for the "invention" of the Internet is, frankly, just silly political posturing.



@ JimZ



You wouldn't recognize a fact unless it had "Republican" plastered all over it.

Answer 14

No. It is not denial to recognize data.