Question:
Do you think Global Warming is happening naturally or everyone is just paranoid?
Hoodoo
2007-05-26 00:08:27 UTC
No one can prove if it's are thought though since we have only been measuring the weather for around 200 years. If we saw data from 1500 or whatever and then looked at the tempreture was rising then we would know. You know what could people back then do to pollute the earth. Drive their 4x4's.
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NoLifeSigns
2007-05-26 00:23:44 UTC
I think that entirely too many scientists today are ready to say they know that global warming is the responsibility of our pollution of the atmosphere, when there is no way for them to really know if the warming trend is something that happened before, or not. Why? Because if they get everyone to believe that it is what we are doing that is causing it, then they can believe that we can do something to stop it. If it is just a natural occurrence, that has happened many times before, then there is nothing that we are able to do to stop it, and we may not survive it if it continues.



While I won't discount the possibility that polution may be causing it, I will never assume, no matter how many "experts" agree with each other, that it is our actions alone that is causing it. This may be the natural course of things.
amancalledchuda
2007-05-27 16:05:55 UTC
My opinion is that the current warming trend we seem to be seeing is probaby mostly natural and will probably not cause us any major problems.



Global Warming Alarmists (GWAs) will tell you differently, of course, but most of what they say is simply propaganda.



Take Bob, above, for example. He says: "99+% of scientists around the world believe global warming is real and mostly caused by us." But this simply isn't true - Bob's lying to you. Here's a link to an actual survey of climate scientists. http://downloads.heartland.org/20861.pdf Let's see what they have to say on the subject...



Is global warming real? A whopping 82% say is it. But that's well short of Bob's 99+%. In fact, almost 1 in 5 are not sure it's even happening and almost 3% *strongly* disagree.



Is global warming mostly caused by us? Almost 56% say yes, but that's nearly half of Bob's 99+%. Basically, that shows that scientists are pretty much evenly divided on the subject.



So why do people like Bob lie to us and say these things? Because it's a classic propaganda technique: tell the people that it's already been decided and these are the "facts" and you'll be amazed how gullible people will be. Of course, it only works if you can silence the opposition, which is why we get people like Margaret Beckett, the Foreign Secretary, comparing climate sceptics to advocates of Islamic terror. Neither, she said, should have access to the media.



Notice that Bob uses this "everyone believes it" tactic twice, because he later quotes Jerry Mahlman (NOAA) as saying "There's a better scientific consensus on this [climate change] than on any issue I know..." So, is that as good a consensus as there was about the Earth being at the centre of the Solar System during Galileo's time? Saying "there's a consensus" is meaningless. What they're really saying is "Well, we can't actually *prove* it, but there's more of us than you, so we're right (so there)."



As ever with global warming - don't believe the hype.
wtshimmin
2007-05-26 07:33:53 UTC
I'm more inclined to believe it's a natural occurrence. Considering the Carbon Dioxide levels were nearly double during the med evil period (measured via bog strata), and no ice age resulted. Carbon Dioxide levels run up about every 700 years or so. It's nothing new.



When Mt. Pinatubo erupted it belched out a phenomenal amount of carbon dioxide, various acids and sulfates creating a massive ozone hole, yet self corrected within 140 day's.



Shifting ice caps? How many people realise the earth is constantly shifting on it's axis, which is why we have compass deviation from magnetic to true north. Wind directly affects ocean temperature along with deep water currents and visa verse. Get a change in current pattern, there will be a created cause and effect.



The premise of Global Warming is BIG business when you really take a good close look at it. All you have to do is research back to discover who began yelling "Global Warming" in the first place... and the light grows brighter.



As for those who have done no research and merely watched a movie, ready to believe everything espoused simply because it was claimed to be...research the validity and you'll find some convenient distortions of truth.



You may not like the reality of the results you find out, but as far as the above examples...they are fact.
Trevor
2007-05-26 12:14:31 UTC
The oldest recorded temperature data comes from the UK Meteorological Office and is known as HadCET (Hadley Centre Central England Temperature), it dates back to 1659.



The earliest thermometers (thermoscopes) predate this so there are some earlier measurements but they're usually disgarded as not being reliable.



There are seveal techniques we can use to calculate, with great accuracy, historical temperatures. The furthest we can go back uses oxgyen isotope analysis and this provides us with a 542 million year climate record.



Not that we need to go back that far, even a chart drawn from the last 30 years of data shows a very rapid warming trend (30 years is generally considered the shortest time scale for which a reliable analysis can be made).



From these detailed temperature records we can clearly see that something strange is happening - temperatures are rising far faster than has ever before been known.



We've known for over 100 years why this is. It was back in 1896 that Svante Arrhenius established the link between greenhouse gas emissions, the greenhouse effect, global warming and climate change.



To say that we don't have enough information is simply not true, we have a huge amount of information and this is why the scientists are so concerned. If we did only have 200 years of data there would be far less cause for concern as it would be assumed that the Earth was behaving naturally. It's quite clear that what's happeing now isn't natural and current temperature rises are 17 times as fast as anything that's ever before been known.
bavwill
2007-05-26 07:46:47 UTC
It might be possible that the hole in the ozone is not just a symptom of global warming, it could be the earths attempt to cool down, and unfortunately frying everything under that hole. Global Warming opens the door for new environmentally friendly alternative businesses. Oil is not sustainable. Fuels like rapeseed oil and power sources like solar and wind energy need large scale funding in order to make any impact. The fact of the matter is, people have been screaming about global warming since the fifties. So when you have a couple of scientists threatening the success of the corporate fatcats with their findings, it's going to get covered up. It's all about timing, and the timing is going to be different for every country and it's about whether is economically viable. It seems risky when there is money involved, but at the end of the day, If you had a choice to live in a city with traffic that runs on petrol or rapeseed oil, what would you choose. Rapeseed runs in all engines and doesn't require any car modification. And the waste gas is oxygen, believe it or not. Also, if the climate heats up, it's in your interest to use the energy to your advantage. Save yourself a heap of cash in the longrun and invest in a solar panel. Of course, geography is an important factor. If it was possible to pinpoint an area at tisk of flooding, a water power station could be built, creating jobs and improving qualituy of life, basically setting up the economy. It will take a long time. Some countries are run by difficult leaders and the only thing that will work is money, funding and positive propoganda. Scare tactics may seem bad to some people but it's the only way to get the message across to the indifferent.
telemeister
2007-05-26 07:52:50 UTC
I think the issue is related to the causes of global warming and the extent to which temperatures will actually change. The earth has been through many climate changes throughout its life.

We are also coming out of a great cooling which began in the early 1900s.

As far as going back before the 1850s (when records began), moisture content is measured in the rings of old trees, then temperatures are extrapolated, which isn't all that accurate, particularly when putting temperature changes into context becomes difficult, temperatures need to be trended over millions of years, rather than the few hundred shown in the likes of 'An inconvenient truth'.....

One great concern is, given how much hysteria has been wiped up, there is a temptation for politicians to make radical changes and expenditure based on shaky scientific grounds merely to appear 'Green'.

Very complicated topic isn't it?
The goblin
2007-05-28 15:30:48 UTC
Some years ago, we had a meteorologist to give a talk at a club I attended.

He produced a chart of global temperatures covering the last 200,000years: guess what?

We are currently slap bang in the middle of the chart for global temperature. It has been much hotter and much cooler than now in the past.

Conclusion? We don't really know yet if it is natural, man made or both. But... it does make sense to conserve all our resources for the future, so lets stop polluting and wasting fuel!
2007-05-26 12:52:43 UTC
Quite simply put, we are not responsible for global warming, perhaps we are speading it up a little though.



So lets get this right, the earth is about 5 billion years old, in that time its been super hot, ice aged, tropical, hit by space debris, freezing cold again, hot again etc...



I personally believe the whole global warming warming is a side issue used by government to smokescrean the real issues we face (ie, iranian and korean nuclear bombs, gulf war 3, the greater german state... other that the EU etc)
willow
2007-05-27 19:43:21 UTC
Global warming is definately natural, however continually building over natural land can't be doing the earth alot of good. The Co2 that we produce is not harming the planet, Co2 is produced naturally, and nature produces a shite load more than we do. Watch 'The Great Global Warming Swindle'. Although the co2 and other gases we produce can't be doing our health any good.



Sharn do you know what volcanoes produce?
2007-05-26 07:31:00 UTC
Like a lot of important issues, Global Warming suffers the indignity of every ill-informed pundit chipping in with their two cents' worth. There's no other subject in recent years that's attracted so much uneducated opinion on both sides of the debate.

For me the global warming debate detracts from a far more pertinent point about fossil fuels - they're going to run out one day, and most of what's left is in the hands of unpleasant dictators. Therefore, regardless of whether carbon emissions are warming the planet, we need to be cutting down on carbon consumption because of the economic and political consequences of staying hooked on the black stuff.

As far as whether GW is happening or not, I'm not going to contradict myself and add my own ill-informed voice to the melee. All I would do is break the question down into its component bits:



1) Is the temperature of the planet increasing?



2) If the answer to 1) is yes, is this increase abnormal when the earth's natural up-and-down temperature fluctuations are taken into account?



3) If the answer to 2) is yes, is this abnormal temperature increase due to human activity?



All three questions require the answer 'yes' for global warming to be considered a reality, the hardest one to prove being question 3). Some scientists (see sources, below) dispute even the first question, pointing out that weather stations in rural areas have not even registered a temperature rise at all over the past hundred years, and the phenomenon of global warming is something only recorded in cities (urban areas tend to warm up as they grow bigger due to the intensive use of concrete and electricity). Certainly it is very challenging indeed to link any increase in temperature to human activity due to the sheer complexity of climate as a science.

One thing's for sure - opinions on global warming tend to ignore the science and follow the politics. In other words, people in bed with oil companies etc tend to think (with no scientific background whatsoever) that global warming is all hokum, whereas liberals and socialists with an axe to grind tend to plug GW theories as gospel truth as it suits their worldview that energy companies really are 'destroying the world'.

What we should be doing is let scientific study (ie creating theories, making predictions, and seeing if those predictions come true) set the tone for the global warming debate, and ignore non-scientists on either side of the issue.
jademonkey
2007-05-26 12:45:16 UTC
Its not mentioned very often, but as there are still ice-caps at the Arctic and Antarctic, we are tecnically still in an Ice Age. These ice caps expand and contract over the millennia, sometimes disapearing completely and other times nearly reaching the equator. Its taken approximately 10,000 years for the ice to withdraw to where it is now. This is an entirely natural process.



However, what is not natural is the way human environmental pollution is accellerating the natural ice withdrawl. The ice is of course not the main problem: the resulting sea level rising will cause massive social and ecenomic problems as already overcrowded parts of the world get smaller (New Orleans will be repeated over and over again).
Jack
2007-05-26 18:40:49 UTC
"The conclusions are wrong, the models are in-accurate and the science does not support the current cycle of Global Warming being related to CO2 or any other green house gas. Quite the opposite in fact. This cause is based on liberal politics and has nothing to do with the science."



Just to be clear. CO2, human or otherwise has absolutely no part to play in the current cycle of Global Warming.Just to be clear. CO2, human or otherwise has absolutely no part to play in the current cycle of Global Warming. We are neither the cause nor helping to accelerate it.



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4499562022478442170&hl=en
Dr David
2007-05-26 20:51:16 UTC
Our climate changes naturally over thousands of years.



What we are discussing are changes over a period of only a few decades.



Our modern lifestyle does have an adverse effect on the weather pattern of our planet. The more human population we have using the resources of the planet are bound to make a difference.



However, I have another concern, microwave radiation from satellites used for communications. The whole planet is currently inside a giant microwave oven.



Just sit back and think of all the things we receive by radio transmissions, mobile phones, satellite navigation, digital television, the list is virtually endless.

This must be having an effect on global warming.



Put a glass of water in a microwave oven, leave it on low power for thirty seconds, and it gets warm.



Put a planet in a microwave oven on low power for thirty years, ???



Hope this answer goes some way to helping.
boygenis
2007-05-26 07:26:15 UTC
If you see the movie "an Inconvenient Truth" you will find your reasons.



Ice Glaciers on Earths poles have been there for millions of years, Scientist can pull out samples from drilling through them and by the stucture of ice, can tell how old are they and what type of climate/ weather they were formed. The little bubbles that Snow fall traps has all the atmosphere combination at the time.



so they have this chart going on and where they have different Ice ages and area b/w them and the combination of our atmosphere...



when CO2 goes up, Climate temperature goes up. when CO2 goes down, Temperature goes down. It makes sense since CO2 has property to store heat.



CO2 (carbon dioxide) levels now are far more than anything in our history (after living things appeard on the surface of earth).



that is one of my reasons. and YES, scientist have proofs that what we have now is abnormal and caused by human activity.



**why don't we let these scientist to do there job. they have studied there A*S off to get what they are now, we have no Idea about this then they do*** but every one is just too busy thinking they are smarter then the rest of the world....
Aleks
2007-05-26 07:18:41 UTC
Everybody is way too hyped up about Global Warning.

In the last 100 years we have had scares of a new ice age, global warming, ice age, and now we're back to global warming.

I hate Al Gore and Leo Dicaprio.

the worst part is that in ten years when everything is back to normal, the hippies will think that they were the ones that saved the planet.
2007-05-26 09:21:48 UTC
Personaly, Im more inclined to think that the majority of the folks who wanna deny that were destroying our mother earth whether it be through our contribution to global warming, our polluting our atmosphere, ground and water or our constant waging of war in the name of politics, religion, profit and/or power are only denying it because they dont want to and/or unable to hold themselves accountable for their choices and/or actions. I suppose it would be nice to believe that what we do or dont do doesnt matter in regards to the fate of our world but in reality, we cant afford to live in a fantasy world and still hope to exist in this real one. So, do I believe that global warming is a natural occurance ? Yes. Do I believe that we humans are contributing to it in a destructive manner ? Yes. Do I believe that the folks who are aware of the danger and are concerned about it are paranoid ? No.
Bob
2007-05-26 07:18:13 UTC
99+% of scientists around the world believe global warming is real and mostly caused by us. And any number of very distinguished people, too.



"I wasn’t convinced by a person or any interest group—it was the data that got me. I was utterly convinced of this connection between the burning of fossil fuels and climate change. And I was convinced that if we didn’t do something about this, we would be in deep trouble.”



Vice Admiral Richard H. Truly, USN (Ret.)

Former NASA Administrator, Shuttle Astronaut and the first Commander of the Naval Space Command



Here are two summaries of the mountain of data that convinced Admiral Truly, short and long.



http://www.globalwarmingart.com/wiki/Image:Climate_Change_Attribution.png



http://www.ipcc.ch/SPM2feb07.pdf



"There's a better scientific consensus on this [climate change] than on any issue I know - except maybe Newton's second law of dynamics. Global warming is almost a no-brainer at this point,You really can't find intelligent, quantitative arguments to make it go away."



Jerry Mahlman, NOAA



We can reconstruct temperatures from earlier times in a number of different ways. They all give pretty much the same results:



http://www.globalwarmingart.com/wiki/Image:1000_Year_Temperature_Comparison_png



Good websites for more info:



http://profend.com/global-warming/



http://www.realclimate.org



"climate science from climate scientists"
Lida
2007-05-26 07:23:55 UTC
It is a natural process, this has already happened before. But I think that this time the Earth is warming much faster than any time before, and this is definitely caused by human.
Kainoa
2007-05-26 08:52:01 UTC
It's probably a natural occurrence being accelerated by our actions and also the sheer number of people. Think of how a crowded room becomes really warm just from the body heat of the people present.
2007-05-26 08:00:54 UTC
If there is such a thing then it is a natural cycle. Indeed, we are often told that this is the hottest week since 1865 or such like, but why was it hot in 1865 when there was no GW?
planet
2007-05-29 11:45:12 UTC
i believe global warming is a natural process otherwise the last ice age would still be with us.
kitty
2007-05-26 07:16:07 UTC
i believe that global warming is a natural process (take the ice age for instance.. what happened to all that ice?), however i also believe that we are not causing global warming, but instead we are increasing the rate at which it happens.
2007-05-26 07:24:23 UTC
I think its a big old hyped up load of kakadoodle & any girl should be thankful they can now get a tan 8 months of the year without getting scorchio under the bed of rays.....



Where was i......
taxed till i die,and then some.
2007-05-26 14:06:57 UTC
It is a natural thing that is being helped by humans.
bal
2007-05-26 07:18:28 UTC
i just think it is a natural process because what about the ice age?, if we look over the time of the planet we see that its changed over time
Plato
2007-05-26 18:46:55 UTC
Naturally, it's the sunspots.
motown
2007-05-26 07:18:32 UTC
i think we're just going into another natural cycle
2007-05-28 08:26:41 UTC
of course its us!!! what, u think co2 just appears???
2007-05-26 19:31:55 UTC
WHO OR WHAT IS TO BLAME



Irresponsible Agriculture , expanding populations and its effects are the planets biggest enemies.



This text only covers some aspects of Climate change ,i.e.effects of deforestation and subsequent man made desertification ,because of irresponsible farming using chemicals ,over pumping carbon aquifers,over grazing ,wild fires (because of slash and burn gone out of control).



Water and air polution ,such as caused by

industrial contamination ,the contaminating effects of the cities(the internal combustion engine) ,are other stories.



All of these are also man made ,such as the high industrial chimneys pumping contamination into the clouds and the burning of tires,some of this polution has been found in the ice in the polar regions.



There are natural cycles in the planets life

but a lot is influenced by mans existance ,this is increasing with overpopulation,putting strains on Natural resources and increasing contaminations .



The thinner ozone layer helps to speed this up. This is caused mainly by air polution ,also as a result of mans actions.



In North Africa,India,Mexico ,millions of people are effected by land loss , desertification and some have died as a result.



Now many animals are becoming sick because of changes in temperature .

Vital links in the food chains are disapearing affecting other species further along in the chain .



We are witness to a mass exstinction ,for the first time since the dinosaurs.

Of the earth's estimated 10 million species, 300,000 have vanished in the past 50 years.

Each year, 3,000 to 30,000 species become extinct.



Everything is happening so fast it is not possible to monitor things any more.



The Sahara is growing by 7 kilometers a year.

Most of the desserts are as a results of mans actions.And they are increasing .In the dinosaurs days ,there were few desserts.



Collectively this planet is drying up .



Each degree rise in temperature means 10%crop loss



There is less and less water (because of deforestation),to irrigate Agriculture.



Arable lands and their farms are lost all over the globe. Many farmers sons abandon farming and head for the cities.



Northern China is drying up, what once were millions of food producing people, are now hungry refugees ,running for their lives from the all consuming dust storms.



This will have a great effect on world food prices when they start buying at what ever cost, to feed their people.



The farmers that are left have to feed some 70 million more people than the year before but with less topsoil(because of desertification and irreverible erosion)



Over the last half century,

Population growth & rising incomes have tripled world grain demand from 640 million tons to 1,855 million



In the near future the global farming community will not be able to feed every body ,food prices will continue to rise. .



RISING SEAS

The northpole is melting ,and we will know it without ice in our life times.

This does not affect the sea level ,because it is ice that is already in the water.but the melting ice from Green land and the south pole ,and the Glaziers is potable water lost forever and rises the sea levels.



Are We responsible ?

Is it the Sun?

Is it God who wants to punish us?

Is it Gaia who wants to clean some parasitic infestation?

Is it a Natural cycle?



Who cares ? that is not important any more

WHAT IS important -is that we are gonna be in trouble



WHAT CAN WE DO????????????????



The best we can do as individuals is be more responsible ,in our own neck of the woods



Organise well publicized clean up parties ,talk on the radio,hold citizan meetings, get the shools involved to plant trees and listen to environmental awareness talks.



If you do any cleaning up ,leave signs behind saying who cleaned,why and ask people not to start dumping rubbish again ,leave a hole or bins ,in case people come back with trash ,and they always do.



We have done a lot of comunity cleaning and if you dont leave alternatives or try to work on peoples guilt feelings (some people actually have those ,but not many) ,than your efforts are a waste of time.



That is what we do in Mexico.



POSITIVE ACTIONS

Print Tshirts with slogans ,hang posters all over the place (with recycled paper if possible).



Classify trash, take out all the organic waste and make compost with it ,the worst you can do is throw it with the trash,or burn it .



70% of contamination is due to organic waste that is mixed in with the garbage .

and it is just as bad in the sewer where it helps to breed rats and in the landfill it poisons the ground .



This is the easiest to take care of .



First of all we have to clasify trash ,at least keep the organic to one side ,like in a plastic bin with a lid .



If you got a few meters of ground ,you only need 1 or 2 square meters in a shallow hole ,(in the shade) ,that you can wet now and again .



Where you dump everything that is organic .

Toilet paper,bones vegetable cuttings ,eggshells,

deadbodies ,excrement ,cardboard,leaves,

shredded paper,old clothes (if they are organic),



Cover regularly with leaves or a piece of plastic,

to keep humid and to hide any smell .

REGULARLY spray some water over it ,but do not saturate it or the worms will die or leave.

The worms will decompose the wastes, turning it into beautifull black soil for the garden of flower pots .



If you are in a apartment ,if you have a balcony get a big plastic bin drill some holes in the side and lid ,



and add a few buckets of sand now and again to put over the trash ,you should realy stir or move the stuff at times to airate it ,and ensure that the decomposition is even ,keep moist



this rubbish does not get big very fast and the thing works for a long time with out getting full



----------------------Some more Positive thoughts

Global warming cannot be stopped but being friendlier to our Environment cannot be bad and maybe we buy some time.



If you want to help the planet ,plant a tree every week ,if everyone on the planet did we we would be able to slowdown the destructive processes.



Reduce carbon emisions,and they are already working on that ,by alternative forms of energy We need more regulations on carbon production.

Dont use aerosol cans,

Dont burn trash

Limit water use

Recicling wastes.



AGRICULTURE must invest in

Waterharvesting projects ,(such as thousands of small dams).to redirect over ground waterflows from the rains into the ground to supply subteranian water supplies.



Assist the capture of carbon and the production of water by promoting Reforestation.



The world bank pays large subsidies for reforrestation to capture carbon and the best tree for this is the Pawlonia .



Agricultural education and improvements to follow the principals of sustainability and soil management



GOVERNMENT

The protection of existing forrests.

Stop building more highways,

Urban planning to include vegetation

Stop building cities encourage people to return to the land to conduct their business from there ,which now has become possible thanks to the internet.



More environmental or land ,design to prevent bush fires,such as--fire breaks .

More dams,regulations and control for public behaviour.

Alternative effeciant public transport to discourage the use of the internal conbustion engine.



SCHOOL SYSTEMS

Education to motivate people to auto sufficiency by building more home food gardens.

Education on environmental awareness.

Education on family planning ,to curb overpopulation.



Here are a 100 more ways

http://www.eco-gaia.net/forum-pt/index.p... Source(s) Lester E Brown is the director and founder of the global institute of Environment in the United states .he has compiled a report based on all the satalite information available from NASA,and all the information that has

come from Universities and American embassies WORLD WIDE ,

his little book--a planet under stress , Plan B has been trans lated into many languages and won the best book award in 2003


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