Question:
Is there still a global warming pause?
Kano
2015-10-08 16:16:28 UTC
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/10/08/theres-life-in-the-old-pause-yet/
25 answers:
graphicconception
2015-10-08 18:31:55 UTC
Yes, there is still a pause.



They have manipulated the temperature station data to massage it into sloping upwards. It wasn't always like that but it is now. That is why we have several dozen papers written trying to explain the pause.



They have chosen to ignore the best ocean data we have from the ARGO buoys because it is not increasing fast enough for the extremists. Karl et al wrote that up.



It sounds as if they are leaning on the satellite people to rubbish their own data because that does not show any warming.



The models all show warming so the data has been brought into line. That is the scientific method at work in today's political environment.
SAM
2015-10-11 22:06:00 UTC
No. There is no pause. As long as the earth is revolving there is an equal ever changing. actually i strongly believe that it is even progressing the more since human beings like you and me are the main factor for the very culprit of the global warming issues here..unstoppable! We mean a lot to the progress of the problem
?
2015-10-09 11:36:26 UTC
Yes there is a pause. And if you go back an equal time period, you get to the start of the global warming.

The pause is likely to shorten in length as El Nino takes shape. However, even with the warmer temperatures it is clear that they have overstated the amount of warming that will take place.
Tom S
2015-10-09 20:32:55 UTC
There is some conflicting data on that, but a brief pause in in an otherwise warming trend is not unusual. Similar to the stock market, if you look at it over a short period it can look like it is going up or down, but the long term it is going up.
Wage Slave
2015-10-09 05:51:26 UTC
The resident Chicken Littles continue to deny the existence of a pause (Does that make them "deniers?"). They claim it was a myth and invoke Monckton and the Koch brothers.



Meanwhile, alarmist scientists have come up with at least 63 excuses for this "non-existent" pause. Even the King Chicken, Jimmy Hansen has a written opinion why the pause will not last.



Alternating periods of slow (or no) and rapid warming are tied to the PDO. This has been documented in peer reviewed papers. Let the alarmists tie themselves up in knots alternately excusing the pause and denying it exists. The way I see it, we have another 15 years before relatively rapid warming comes back.
JimZ
2015-10-09 08:41:49 UTC
A pause indicates that warming will likely continue at some point. If humans caused warming than there likely was no real pause in human caused warming but the pause obviously indicates that any human caused warming was less than the natural variation. 10 years ago alarmists assured us this wasn't the case. Now the pause has forced them to moderate their position but their shrillness has only increased.



I'm not really sure of a pause but there is definitely a paws as my cat proves.
Tyler
2015-10-10 16:09:54 UTC
Global warming is just a natural cycle
?
2015-10-12 19:42:14 UTC
there is still a pause but it will continue at some future event or scene
?
2015-10-10 08:58:13 UTC
No, not much. The trend is up, even with a less bright Sun. And note in this plot, that the adjustments in the last 1/3 of a century are tiny. And overall, the RAW data shows MORE warming than the adjusted data.
2015-10-08 19:49:32 UTC
Global Alarming Alarmists will continue to "nit-pick" towards a human forcing as to why the World is warming. The hottest or coldest day 'ever recorded' was a simple measurement, but measuring averages of averages is their specialty. "Statistics" are easily manipulated.



Having 5 hits more every 100 at bats in baseball is the difference from batting .250 and .300. Many times it is the difference in how a hit is scored. It's no different in averaging anything including temperature, but temperature measuring has many more variables to consider and science still has a hard time getting it right just as do the umpires and statisticians (official scorers) in baseball, yet they are still considered the "officials" of the game.



A 0.87C rise in global average temperatures in over 350 years of human industrialization could be a 1.17C rise or even a 0.57C rise. The problem with coming up with an ACTUAL temperature relies on the interpretation of the statistics. With either a 1.17C rise or a 0.57C rise, there is a statistical error bar of over 68.9% (1.17C - 0.57C = 0.6C : 0.6C/0.87C = 68.96551%) of what the ACTUAL temperature of the Earth REALLY is. Science needs to start measuring more accurately so Monckton has nothing to complain about in as far as how science measures Global Average Temperatures.



The "jaggity" fluctuation of temperature should be science's first clue. If ACTUAL temperature of the Earth does fluctuate as much as they are displaying, then they REALLY need to try harder to get it right, but they aren't measuring the whole atmosphere and they definitely aren't getting an exact reading. They are measuring where and how they want to. Regardless of Monckton's point on the matter, 'science in general' is not producing a system that is conducive to an accurate accounting of Earth's ACTUAL temperature.



10,000 years out of a glacial period, 150 years out of a mini ice age, an overall trend towards a warmer World, along with a "mere" overall atmospheric change of 0.012% in 350 years of human industrialization doesn't convince me that we are heading towards "catastrophic" Global Warming. Now they are going to try and throw in "Global coral bleaching" as another finger-pointing effort at human emissions.



They'll keep working on it. That's why they are called "ALARMISTS".



It's hard to tell if there is a pause or not IMO. The way that we measure temperature is antiquated.We need to move forward and get more specific before we let a bunch of bureaucrats tell us how we can live our lives.
BB
2015-10-09 03:28:09 UTC
Yes....of course there is a 'pause'. Even the Warming Hoaxters admitted it until a couple of months ago, when it became necessary for them to join the Moonie-mantra leading up to the upcoming Paris Climate Carnival which meant that everything that is bad or could be bad must be or will be the result of Catastrophic AGW. They have cooked data and simply put.....lied to Mankind in order to prop up their Political cause.



We are looking at crimes against humanity that need to be prosecuted to the limits of the Law.
2015-10-09 17:57:38 UTC
There isn't a pause, because its all bogus
?
2015-10-09 22:53:20 UTC
Yes, but their is going to be a small blip soon because of the el nino la nina cycle. Then we may hit a mini ice age again.
2015-10-10 09:04:44 UTC
What pause?



2014 is the warmest year on record and that 2015 is set to surpass that.



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Oscar
2015-10-08 19:59:14 UTC
Naw the warmers are still lying at full speed. Hadn't noticed them pausing any.
Thorn
2015-10-09 07:53:47 UTC
NO

the 'pause' was an inaccurate word, or at least misunderstood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Klgp_qDiRhQ
James
2015-10-08 16:32:08 UTC
Monckton is funny, he admits he cherry picks the date and then says it is not cherry picked, it is calculated--yes, he calculates it to come up with the longest trend he can that is not positive. How does he think that is not cherry picking, that's practically the definition of cherry picking!



EDIT: Of course it's cherry picked Kano, his criterion is based on cherry picking! He's trying to find the longest time span he can that won't show warming, how is that not cherry picking? Because a computer program does it? Get serious.



By the way, I showed that your answer about the flooding in South Carolina was wrong, and you've been strangely silent on that subject since. Do you admit you were wrong about that, too?
2015-10-08 16:23:47 UTC
yes
?
2015-10-10 11:07:40 UTC
unfortunalty yes
The Patriot
2015-10-09 04:51:30 UTC
There never was. It was a myth made up by Lord Monckton. Deniers still believe it for some reason.
2015-10-09 07:09:03 UTC
there never was a pause and Watts is part of the anti science movement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e1XX-ngJcc
?
2015-10-09 11:58:01 UTC
yea
John
2015-10-09 01:24:50 UTC
yes
?
2015-10-10 09:38:25 UTC
No
virtualguy92107
2015-10-08 16:30:29 UTC
If you understand statistics, you know there never was one.


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