Why do all the warmies try to say they always predicted the record freezing weather in the UK and W Europe?

Question

Why do all the warmies try to say they always predicted the record freezing weather in the UK and W Europe?

Answer 1

They always make predictions with an "out."



They've been abusing the hell out of their out.... as the complete opposite of what they've been predicting has come to pass.



When they eventually admit that the earth isn't at a "record warm year." Or they finally become honest and readjust their temperature adjustments so they reflect reality then there will be silence out of this crowd for a while.

Answer 2

Let me ask you why you feel it is necessary to tell so many lies and to constantly distort reality.



Please provide credible links to sources that back up your claims. If you’re unable to do so then the obvious conclusion is that, not having come from any other source, then it must have come from you.



You rightly berate a person if they claim that a spell of hot weather in such and such a place is evidence of global warming yet hypocritically, you relentlessly bang on about how three weeks of cold weather in the UK is proof that there’s no such thing as global warming. Where’s the integrity or rationality in that?



I wouldn’t even like to estimate the number of times that people have explained the difference between weather and climate to you, it is easily into triple digits. You’re able to make the distinction but only when it suits you.



I know exactly what it is you’re referring to in your question. It’s comments made by Dr David Viner of the Climatic Research Unit in the UK that he made in 2000. At the time he stated (paraphrasing) that snow would become a rare occurrence, children could grow up not knowing what snow is and that harsh winters would return from time to time and catch everybody out.



Whether you wish to accept it or not, the simple fact of the matter is that he was correct. Compared with 50 years ago the UK now receives 78% less snow than it did, up until last year there were parts of the UK that hadn’t seen any real snow for more than 30 years and since the severe winter of 1962/3 there have only been four bad winters.



Here’s the original article that your claims originate from: http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/snowfalls-are-now-just-a-thing-of-the-past-724017.html



Unfortunately for the deniers and skeptics there is mounting evidence that the cold winters are a direct consequence of global warming. Nothing to do with the Gulf Stream being disrupted which is a claim some people make but, more to do with a reversal of weather conditions in the Arctic.



This event, known as an Arctic Dipole Anomaly, is a new weather phenomenon but is one that has long been predicted as a consequence of global warming. It first manifested itself in 2001 and has occurred four times since then. Ordinarily high pressure over Siberia feeds into low pressure areas over northern Canada but this has been switching. The result is that weather patterns, winds, ice-floes and ocean currents begin to move in the opposite direction.



If you look at this graph of Arctic sea-ice extent earlier this year you can see that in the weeks up to the end of June there was very rapid shrinkage of the ice but then on 29th June the reduction in extent dramatically slowed down. This was the date the anomaly started. If you look at the inset you can see that ordinarily the pattern of ice extent follows a fairly smooth curve but this year (the red line) the curve was replaced by a series of steps.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/trevorandclaire/4995348081/sizes/l/in/photostream/



These steps depict when there was almost no reduction in sea-ice extent followed by a very rapid reduction, something that repeated several times as the Arctic weather patterns oscillated.



Not enough is known about the Arctic Oscillation to say for certain if it is a consequence of global warming or what the future consequences are likely to be. It will require several more years of research and observations before any meaningful conclusions can be drawn.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_dipole_anomaly



Incidentally, I didn’t predict the freezing weather in the UK. The only prediction I made was three months back when I said I thought it “highly unlikely that this winter will be worse than the one last year”. Although technically correct in that we’ve only had three weeks of bad weather, I didn’t expect this winter to be as cold or as snowy as it has been so far.

https://answersrip.com/question/index?qid=20100919085902AAkseIi&r=w#NbUvWju1UjQAMkmW1LSy



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EDIT: TO GEORGE ORWELL.



Shall I pass a ladder down into the hole you’ve just fallen into? You claim “They won't admit that stories like this were ever printed” and linked to the article in the Independent. Shame that I’d already linked to it BEFORE you answered the question.



You then state “Good thing we have the internet to keep catching the AGW crowd in there lies”. Yes it is a good thing we have the internet to keep catching YOU out in YOUR lies.

Answer 3

Adherents to the AGW religious philosophy, that is those who put their faith in the AGW creed as espoused by many on this site, are not as interested in the climate as they pretend, their real agenda is to effect social change, with an emphasis on the equalization of income among all the population of the earth, the strict implementation of population control, and the elevation of the "scientist" to the become the new ruling class in the new world order. The fallacy of anthropogenic global warming is simply an instrument to effect these changes. They will defend it up to the point of obvious failure, then they will abandon it for another "cause celebre' in order to accomplish the same goal.

Failure of the AGW creed is coming sooner than they thought.

Answer 4

Hey "lunatic" (appropriate name by the way)- Then why did a senior researcher at CRU not hear of this theory? Strange, isn't it?



Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past

According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare and exciting event".

Answer 5

because they didn't.... that's from the bp oil spill slowing down the gulf stream so just keep drilling god will protect us

Answer 6

They also predicted that it would begin to get dark toward nighttime giving way to lighter skies as dawn approaches, and that if the wind blows it will be windy as well as if it rains there is a chance one may get wet if they venture outside without a "chubby" or umbrella.

Answer 7

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That says more about the quality of the education in your area than about the science itself.



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Don't blame the scientists. How about you blame the media? For it is the media who are eager to cherry-pick a scientific paper and convert a scientific observation regarding a global decrease in snow episodes into a "It Will Never Snow Again" headline. Heck, there are still news-papers and TV networks who do not know the difference between weather and climate.



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But they did say it all along. For your information, Global Warming does not mean that locally it will never snow nor freeze again. What Global Warming does contribute to is the amount of vapour in the air, vapour which ultimately turns into rain or snow, depending upon the specific weather conditions in your area.



Before blaming the AGW camp, you would do well in educating yourself a bit beyond what the mainstream media tells you. When 93% of world's leading climatologists say Global Warming is happening yet you and many others are still skeptic, then surely the media are doing a terrible job.



TO RICHIE:



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Hey Richie: How about you show us, with a credible link, the percentage of global climatologists who do not support AGW? Perhaps the Royal Society knows. If not, I am sure you are able to mis-comprehend yet again one of their quotes and copy-and-paste it here to back of your delusional arguments.

Answer 8

You clearly show a lack of knowledge in global warming.



The climate isn't getting colder - world global temperature has been on a steady upward trend for decades.



Just note that it's a world global average - a spell of unusually cold weather in a region isn't "proof" of global warming being false any more than a spell of unusually warm weather in the same region is proof that it's true.

Answer 9

Because they are very good at lying.

They won't admit that stories like this were ever printed.

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/snowfalls-are-now-just-a-thing-of-the-past-724017.html

Good thing we have the internet to keep catching the AGW crowd in there lies.

Answer 10

They did predict it, at least one of them. That is the beauty of their religion, they predict everything. Take their overall prediction of "climate change". When in the 4.5 billion year history of the Earth has the climate not changed? It is always in a state of change. Using future change as evidence for your theory is not science, it is just the same tricks used by palm readers. They have predicted earthquakes, tsunamis, floods, droughts, more hurricanes, less hurricanes, male pattern baldness, tornadoes, colder weather, hotter weather, rain, snow, sleet, clear skies, etc. etc. etc. Heck their main spokesperson even invented the internet. They tend to use the shotgun approach for predictions. I normally do not mind this, and if some sucker wants to pay to get their palms read, more power to them. Unfortunately, I do not want to pay $3000 a year because the govt is falling for the tricks of palm-readers. Oh we have modeled that the temps will go up anywhere from nearly 0 to 7.1 degrees celsius in the next 100 years. Thats just great, it covers about 50% of the possible outcomes, and if they are wrong, they will already be dead, so no one will be able to call them out on their idiot claims. Then these psuedo-scientists back this non-prediction with a lot of smart sounding words to confuse the masses. Whats worse is the AGW mouthpeices who take the 7.1 degree predictions and pretend like the scientists are claiming certainty on these predicitons and that the world is going to end.



As far as the religious aspect, they use the same sermons that the ultra-religious use. You are going to a very hot place if you do not change your wasteful and greedy ways. All they do is trade God for Gaia!

Answer 11

Global climate change theory predicts the following scenario (and always has):



Overall increase in global average temperatures result in melting of vast amounts of fresh water trapped on top of Greenland which flows into the North Atlantic. This addition of fresh water changes the ocean salinity to the point where natural currents like the Gulf Stream which provides warming to Great Britain and Western Europe stops flowing thus causing significant cooling in that area especially in the winter months.



Attempting to discredit a well thought out and researched theory without doing even the most basic research on it yourself makes you look like a fool who can't do anything but regurgitate unfounded mis-information.



EDIT:



You prove my point. Just because you never bothered to actually find out all of the ramifications of global climate change doens't mean the information was not available to all. Your opinion is based on cherry picked bits of the theory reported by non-scientific media hacks spoon fed to you in an obviously successful attempt to keep the oil and coal industries in business for as long as possible despite the dangers involved.

Answer 12

Environmentalists aren't all the same and we are not responsible for what others say any more than you're responsible for dubya bush or any other sceptic.



It's probably the gulf stream, or lack thereof, or perhaps just 'climate chaos' with it's moister atmosphere.

Answer 13

Global warming will have the effect of another ice age in the northern hemisphere. I don't understand what religion has to do with global warming..