Question:
You don't have to be against it, but any arguments that global warming is NOT real.?
Imani
2007-11-09 02:58:31 UTC
I am writing an essay and I have been researching forever and haven't found any counterattacks I guess you would say. Like statements that is is not real.
Anything against global climate change?
Tell me why global warming is NOT real.
Thanks
Thirteen answers:
Dr Jello
2007-11-09 03:43:25 UTC
Unless the facts can stand up to objective scrutiny, they aren't real.



Once global warming can be explained by math and not a consensus, then it should be accepted as true. Using a consensus is a lazy mans way of not finishing the job.
veggie_fta
2007-11-09 03:09:50 UTC
The main counterargument I've heard is that it is a natural cycle which the earth goes through. Which is partly true, since we are coming to the end of an ice age. However, (yeah, this probably doesn't help you :P) the excessive greenhouse gases we're emitting into the atmosphere accelerate the process.



Ok, arguments AGAINST... totally against...

*thinks*... i'm pretty sure most of what i've read has been rebutted by global warming evidence...



Sorry that's not much help, but i hope you can get something from it.



Just wondering, do you have a choice whether to argue for or against? Or does the essay have to involve both sides?



Good luck with it anyway :)
jbtascam
2007-11-09 10:49:30 UTC
I like to use the DATA.



The linked chart shows that there has been no warming for the last 10 years. Ignore the red line that stops in 2003 and is still affected by the unprecedented (in the temperature record) el-nino' of 1998. Look at the data points from 2001 to 2006. No trend whatsoever. As a matter of fact, since 1998 the average temperature has been FALLING slightly.



So while the Globe warmed slightly from 1860 to 2000 (almost 1 degree C), it was neither "unprecedented" nor "catastrophic."
anonymous
2007-11-12 17:00:29 UTC
OK since when my parents were growing up the government and scientist said there was going to be another ice age. did that happen no it certainly didn't so why should we believe them about this global warming crap you know what , in 2004 it was the hottest year followed by 1998 and if global warming was real it would get hotter every year and actually most scientist DISAGREE about global warning
anonymous
2007-11-09 09:29:30 UTC
There can be no argument that global warming is not real. Data do not lie and average global temperatures have been increasing for the past 20,000 years. Now why this is happening, and how much of the recent trend is due to human activities is another matter.
Tomcat
2007-11-09 05:36:30 UTC
Climate change is most definitely real, the fact about Earths climate is that we are currently in an ice age. During ice ages the glaciers are either retreating or advancing, so fortunately we are in an interglacial period (glaciers retreating). The IPCC has been caught supporting invalid scientific evidence to attempt to convince the world that the climate has been stable for thousands of years and only recently (the last 100 years) have temperatures warmed rapidly. Nothing could be farther from the truth, the climate could take a dramatic dip at anytime, and challenge humanity with great hardship.



http://www.longrangeweather.com/images/GTEMPS.gif



With the human population of over 6.5 billion and energy becoming scarce, the warnings of a cooling climate should not be taken lightly, with the majority of the world convinced that their only concerns, are slowly rising sea levels and mild winters, we are ill prepared to deal with reality of a new little ice age.



http://bourabai.georisk.kz/landscheidt/new-e.htm



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Modest
2007-11-09 03:03:44 UTC
Global warming is real.



Having said that, recent research shows the the hole in the ozone layer is getting smaller, which can and has been used as an argument that global warming isn't a problem or else that wouldn't be happening



See link below to NOAA site.
anonymous
2007-11-09 08:49:28 UTC
The founder of the Weather channel is pretty fed up with the hoax:

http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/comments_about_global_warming/



And I'd suggest watching National Geographic's Naked Science episodes called "Solar Force", and "Glacier Meltdown", for a reality check on the "facts" you are being deceived with:

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/nakedscience/episodes.html



(To balance things, they also offer "Polar Apolocalypse" to help keep you in fear and utter panic, but that's really about the results of climate change, not the cause.)



Global warming is real. Mankind's responsibility in making it happen is minimal.
eric c
2007-11-09 04:44:52 UTC
1) while co2 is a greenhouse gas, it is a minor one. Water vapour is the most important accounting for 95% of all green house gases. Co2 is just 3.618. Of that portion 95% is natural. So the human portion of all greenhouse gases is just 0.28%.



2) Proponents of the theory then state that the small portion of the co2 will produce more heat, which will in turn produce more water vapour, which will add to the greenhouse effect. But they only concentrate on the positive feedbacks. They avoid any negative feedbacks like the increase in water vapour will produce more clouds. Clouds tend to deflect heat causing cooling.



3) The temperatures have always varied in the past. Two Harvard professors Soon and Baliunas studied over 100 temperature reconstruction studies and concluded:

"Climate proxy research provides an aggregate, broad

perspective on questions regarding the reality of Little

Ice Age, Medieval Warm Period and the 20th century

surface thermometer global warming. The picture

emerges from many localities that both the Little Ice

Age and Medieval Warm epoch are widespread and

near-synchronous phenomena, as conceived by Bryson

et al. (1963), Lamb (1965) and numerous researchers

since. Overall, the 20th century does not contain the

warmest anomaly of the past millennium in most of the

proxy records, which have been sampled world-wide.

Past researchers implied that unusual 20th century

warming means a global human impact. However, the

proxies show that the 20th century is not unusually

warm or extreme."



4) There is good indications that the sun is responsible for most of the current warming see

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/Reference_Docs/The_Geologic_Record_and_Climate_Change.pdf



5) There is good reason to believe U.N.s IPCC (the main proponent of climate change theroy) is biased and has a political agenda:

http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/archives/science_policy_general/000318chris_landsea_leaves.html

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=63ab844f-8c55-4059-9ad8-89de085af353&k=0

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200506/ldselect/ldeconaf/12/1210.htm

http://nzclimatescience.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=157&Itemid=1

http://nzclimatescience.net/images/PDFs/157%20evt.sci.fraud.pdf



6) Temperatures have not risen during the past eight years, despite increases in co2 of 4%.



Here is a good video lecture you can see:

http://www.fcpp.org/main/media_file_wm.php?StreamID=536

click on the link for the power point representation that accompanies the video.



See also these links:



http://www.nrsp.com/news.html

http://www.climatescience.org.nz/

http://www.lavoisier.com.au/

http://www.globalwarmingisafarce.com/
Kelsey_blair
2007-11-12 05:02:35 UTC
Global warming to me is real and everyone else needs to believe it too or else we'll have 100 degree weather and have snow all the up the staue of liberty...but thats just my opinion
anonymous
2007-11-09 04:49:53 UTC
Plenty of science shows AGW will not be catastrophic. I will give you a few sources.



* The IPCC says the planet warmed by .74C in the last century, but we do not know that is true. The US has one of the better weather station networks in the world. When it was first established 150 years ago, the goal was to warm farmers about coming adverse weather. The theory of global warming has only been around about 25 years. The weather stations were not designed to give the type of precision necessary to determine a long-term trend in climate measured in tenths of a degree. Anthony Watts, a broadcast meteorologist (BTW, you should know that meteorolgists are weathermen and they are the scientists least likely to believe AGW will be catastrophic) , is leading an all volunteer effort to photograph and document the quality of weather stations in the GHCN network. So far, they have photographed and rated 1/3 of US stations and found that 85% of them do not meet the minimum standards of the NOAA because they have a warm bias from being poorly sited. Some of them are located on top of parking lots! So, it could be the Earth has not warmed nearly as much as people think. By they way, if you have a digital camera and can borrow a GPS device, this would be a great science project for you!

http://surfacestations.org

See his PowerPoint presentation to scientists at UCAR here

http://gallery.surfacestations.org/UCAR-slides/index.html



* Everyone agrees that greenhouse gases will tend to warm the atmosphere. But not everyone agrees on how much warming is created. Atmospheric CO2 has a logarithmic affect, meaning that every new molecule in the air retains less warmth than the last molecule. This is pretty common in nature. A logarithm produces a curved affect that rises quickly at the beginning and more slowly as the concentration rises. The disagreement among scientists is about where we are on the curve or the shape of the curve. Another factor is possible negative or positive feedbacks and that make the warming slow down or speed up. To take these things into account, scientists estimate climate sensitivity to doubled atmospheric CO2. These climate sensitivity estimates used to show significant warming. More recently, a number of studies have come out.



- Roy Spencer found a new negative feedback in the tropics

http://blog.acton.org/uploads/Spencer_07GRL.pdf



- Stephen Schwartz estimated climate sensitivity using ocean heat content rather than just surface temps and got a much lower climate sensitivity that indicates the warming will not be catastrophic.

http://www.ecd.bnl.gov/steve/pubs/HeatCapacity.pdf



- A new study came out showing that since 2000, CO2 has risen at a much higher rate than previously thought. Since that is true and since (according to the CRU) 1998 is still the warmest year on record, the climate must not be as sensitive to CO2 as was thought.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,304272,00.html

http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/info/warming/gtc2006.gif



- Finally, I would point you to the webpage of Roger Pielke, the most prolific and respected climatologist in the field. He thinks mankind is changing the climate but that land use/ land cover changes create more warming than rising CO2. He also does not see a catastrophe looming.

http://climatesci.colorado.edu/2007/09/02/summary-conclusions-of-climate-science/



* Many people are concerned about the recent melting of Arctic Sea ice and the plight of the polar bears. What they do not tell you is that the Arctic Sea has melted before - in 1905 and 1944. The sea ice came back soon after. During those years about 60 ships made the voyage from one ocean to the other.

http://www.allthingsarctic.com/exploration/amundsen.aspx

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,801448,00.html

http://www.allthingsarctic.com/exploration/nwpassage.aspx



Laxon's paper is quite helpful in explaining that arctic sea ice levels are a result of dynamic forcings (wind and ocean) related to regional climate in addition to regional warming

http://www.cpom.org/research/swl-nature.pdf



The polar bear population is currently over 20,000. This is signficantly better than the 5,000 polar bears we had back in the 1950s. Regardless of the global warming hype, the polar bears are not close to going extinct.



You should also know that sea ice around Antarctica is growing and recently set a new record. Seems a little strange that "global warming" would be melting ice in the north and growing ice in the south, doesn't it?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119387567378878423.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries



Good luck on your essay!
Bob
2007-11-09 06:58:09 UTC
Here are scientific answers to the arguments against it:



http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/dn11462

http://www.skepticalscience.com/

http://gristmill.grist.org/skeptics



There are many reasons why EVERY major scientific organization says global warming is real, and mostly caused by us:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change



Why should anyone believe the few skeptics instead?
Danny K
2007-11-09 10:28:38 UTC
Excerpts reprinted with permission from Tom Gremillion

Tuesday, January 25, 2005

Global warming is a hoax, invented in 1988, that combines old myths including limits to growth, sustainability, the population growth time bomb, the depletion of resources, pollution, anti-Americanism and anti-corporate sentiment and, of all things, fear of an ice age. Those that espoused and supported the old myths have joined forced into a new group called “Environmentalists.”

Most environmentalists have no technical or scientific credentials whatsoever. What they have are major news outlets ready and willing to publicize their every utterance regardless of whether or not they are backed up by scientific proof. Atmospheric science requires highly technical knowledge and skills, not possessed by the vast majority of the so-called environmentalists, who yet feel qualified to demand that human activity subjugate itself to the whims of their new deity, Mother Nature.

Environmentalists claim that the Earth’s atmosphere is getting hotter. They claim that the polar icecaps and glaciers will melt and sea levels will rise over two hundred feet, flooding most coastal cities. They claim that many areas of the Earth will turn into deserts. They make all these claims but cannot substantiate them with real scientific evidence. Parts of the polar icecap and glaciers are melting but other areas of the polar icecaps and glaciers are thickening. The environmentalists base their “proof” of the existence of global warming on the melting areas but are strangely silent, even militant to the point of violence, if anyone mentions the areas that are thickening, and those thickening areas are many.

In the past, there have been many times when the global mean temperatures were warmer, sometimes much warmer and colder, much colder than they are now. Global mean temperatures are cyclical with the seasons but also with other normal cycles, as they have been for the entire history of the Earth. Scientific data from ice cores, tree rings and other indicators of global mean temperatures prove this. Human activity has never been the cause of these global temperature swings as the “global warming” advocates claim. If human activity was the cause, where were the SUVs, the power plants and industries in our historical past? They did not exist. If human activity was not the cause of these global temperature swings, what was?

The energy output of the Sun is far greater in one second than human activity could produce in a million years. The Earth rotates around the Sun. Its orbit is slightly elliptical. The energy reaching the Earth from the Sun varies slightly as the distance from the Sun to the Earth varies due to its elliptical orbit. The Sun activity increases and decreases with fluctuations in the solar flares emitted by the Sun. Differences in these fluctuation rates cause increases and decreases of solar energy hitting the Earth. This causes fluctuations in the global mean temperature of the Earth’s atmosphere.

In 2004, the energy from massive solar flares bombarded the Earth with solar energy. This solar energy caused heating of the Earth’s surface and atmosphere. Most of the energy of the solar flare eruptions dissipated into space. The amounts of energy ejected were massive, much greater than normal. Had the Earth received a full blast of the solar energy from one of the numerous flare eruptions in 2004, the consequences to life on Earth could have been disastrous. The higher than usual amounts of energy that struck the Earth’s atmosphere did have their effects, however, including some heating of the atmosphere.

Then there is the eruption of volcanoes, such as Mt. St. Helens, ejecting dust and ash into the Earth’s atmosphere. The amount of dust and ash in the atmosphere varies the amount of energy that can cause heating or cooling of the Earth’s atmosphere. Volcanoes also eject the kind of compounds that environmentalists call greenhouse gases. A single eruption the size of the Mt. St. Helens eruption released more of these gases, dust and ash into the atmosphere than all such emissions by human activity since the beginning of recorded human history. And there are numerous volcanic eruptions yearly.

The oceans are also a major source of greenhouse gases, as are trees. Trees and other vegetation take in carbon dioxide and give off other gases such as methane, a major greenhouse gas, and a host of other compounds, many of which are also greenhouse gases. Decaying vegetation also gives off methane gas. Studies of smog in the Los Angeles basin indicate that over 90% of the smog is generated by the vegetation in the area. To aid in perpetuating the hoax, however, environmentalists, aided by major news media outlets, censored and suppressed this study.

Studies have shown that greenhouse gases produced by human activity accounts for around 1 percent of the gases in the atmosphere. The total elimination of human generated greenhouse gases would have a negligible effect on Earth’s global mean atmospheric temperatures. The elimination of all U.S. gasoline powered vehicles would reduce worldwide “greenhouse” emissions by less than 0.2%.” What would be the effect on global mean temperatures? None. Doubling of manmade greenhouse emissions above current levels would increase the global mean temperature by one degree Centigrade, which is within the normal range of temperature swings.

It is the fluctuations of the Earth’s orbit around the sun, volcanic eruptions, the emission of gases by oceans and trees, all natural occurrences, that cause rises and declines in global mean temperatures, i.e., “global warming” and “global cooling,” not human activity.

Satellite data taken over the past 25 years indicate no surface or atmospheric warming. If anything there has been a very slight cooling, on the order of 0.01 degree Centigrade.

Recently, astronomers have noticed a thinning of the polar icecaps on Mars.

Is this “global warming, Mars style” and do Martian SUVs, power plants, and industries cause it? Hardly, but the “environmentalists” think so. Some even blame it on us here on Earth.

Global warming IS a hoax. Those claiming that “global warming” is real have an agenda other than saving the planet from human activity.


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