Do you think the gvmt should remotely control your home's energy?

Question

California has passed new laws requiring all new heating and cooling systems in homes to have programmable communicating thermostat (PCT) whose settings can be remotely controlled by government authorities.

All homes heating & a/c units will be monitored by the state and the gvmt would have the ability to change the heat or a/c in your home during an “emergency event.”

Anyone who tries to block the gvmts control of the thermostat would be subject to fines and arrest.

Do you think this is an honorable goal in solving the global warming crisis, or do you think this infringement on individual rights is worse than anything in the patriot act?

Do you think the next step should be to monitor your light usage or do you fear that brown shirts will be coming to your home to monitor your light usage?

http://www.energy.ca.gov/2007publications/CEC-400-2007-017/CEC-400-2007-017-45DAY.PDF (Pg 70 Thermostats 1&2)

http://www.theatlasphere.com/columns/080111-williams-tyranny.php

Answer 1

You notice the left does what it normally does, takes away freedom and Crabby blames conservatives. Is there no shame for these people. Apparently not.



I hope that it is only for new houses. My little house has two window air conditioners and I would not want Arnold to tell when I am cool enough.

Answer 2

Hasn't this global warming crap gone far enough?!! I'm so tired of being mandated I could puke. Now they're going to force me to reduce my heat usage?? This is ridiculous! I wish people would wake up and stop letting the government decide what is best for them! This is America people, land of the free. Last time I checked, I was free to use as much energy as I pleased, especially in my own home. God this makes me so mad! All these laws are doing is criminalizing everyone, so eventually, you won't be able to go a day without committing a violation, thereby, allowing the government to control you even more than they already do. Wake up! Man made global warming is nothing more than a natural occurance in the cycle of the planet. And I'll tell you right now, I sure as hell wouldn't adhere to that. My house, my rules. Government has no business telling me what I can do inside of it.



Oh and by the way, to Crabby, if you blame anyone in politics, you can blame your loving dictatorship of the democratic party. Energy independence could be achieved by drilling in Alaska, but since the environmentalist-a-tree-is-equal-to-your life wackos decide to vote it down every time, we don't have the ability to. And not to mention, oil is still the most efficient and abundant energy we have available. Just because you see that the prices on your energy bills and the pumps have gone up doesn't mean the big bad oil companies are gouging you. In fact, you couldn't be more wrong. Do you know how much a gallon of gas would cost if we didn't have all the taxes attached? About 45 cents. Granted there will always be taxes, so even half of what we're paying now would be a great reduction. And guess who does the vast majority of research and scouting for more resources? Oil companies! They have a vested interest to find more resources in the most efficient way possible. The government on the other hand has almost no accountablilty. If they get no results, what are the consequences? None, zero, zip, nada, nothing! If a company gets it wrong, they go out of business. And then look at the demand for the product? The reason prices are so high now is because global demand. Economies like India and China are consuming oil at a record pace. And Americans have a much higher standard of living than they did even ten years ago. So don't hand me that bull sh it about the Republicans are to blame. I'm afraid you're completely wrong my simple-minded friend.

Answer 3

You apparently didn't read the whole thing. It says, "The PCT shall be shipped with default price-event offsets of +4°F for cooling and -4°F for heating enabled; however, customers shall be able to change the offsets and thermostat settings at any time during price events."



That means that the temperature will never be varied by more than 4 degrees from the previous setting, and only in response to high-price emergencies, and the customer can always override the change. I don't see an infringement on rights here. Personally I'd be happy to receive automated warnings of sudden price increases. Most of us don't know until we get the bill and then it's too late.

Answer 4

California has in the past been faced with power shortages, but people still refuse to curb their consumption and this ends up impacting all users. When this happens, control of that resource must be taken out of the hands of the user in the name of fairness for all.

This is the very same thing that is happening with vehicles. With dwindling supplies of oil and a warming climate, gas guzzling SUVs are still in demand, indicating that people can't be trusted to limit their consumption in this selfish "me first" society. Carbon taxes will in the end become a necessity in order to control consumption. Nobody, especially business are going to go green when profits are at stake. With a policy to promote disinformation, Exxon is a prime example of why we can’t leave business to respond to climate change in a responsible manner.

With dwindling resources available for all, we run the risk of moving towards a society where dangerous levels of disparity exist. In order to prevent these societal stresses, governments are going to be forced to introduce certain socialistic type policies that maintain a fare sharing of that diminishing resource. You can deny climate change all you want, but in the end it doesn’t matter what you believe because laws will be passed, and you are going to have to adapt to it whether you like it or not.

When there is finite supply of a resource and a population that lacks self control, rationing becomes necessary for the good of all.

If this seems distasteful to you there are solutions. Purchase a wind turbine and some solar panels which will allow you to generate your own electricity and disconnect yourself from the grid.

Answer 5

My first impression is: No, I wouldn't want to live in a society with that sort of infringement on my personal integrity, not to solve emission problems anyway.



For that purpose I think it would be so much better to let every area cover its own REAL costs in terms of impact on the environment e t c. That way green solutions would be the best for everyone. Those that for some reasons don't want it "green" have to pay a higher cost instead.

Answer 6

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Answer 7

I would move to another state. They pay 60 cents per gallon of gas in taxes too. In Oklahoma we pay 34 cents per gallon. Hopefully that law will be overturned.

Answer 8

That is not fair. A house should be as warm or as cool as it wants to be. Next they will make cars only able to go 50 miles a day. They are trying to have the goverment run our lives.

Answer 9

It is a massive infringement on individual rights and private property. But what do you expect from those socialist "progressives" in California?

Answer 10

i understand the concern of the california government considering that california is one of the dirtiest cities with regards to air pollution... but that is just a little much...



i do think that they should educate people more about the environment so that the people can be more energy conscious...



california should actually make a plan that all appliances that are sold in that state should have the energy star logo, and the light bulbs should be energy efficient... if people don't follow that rule, then they should get fined. also with the heating ob buildings, then i think that they should set a limit to the temperature that they can have the heaters running at... maybe 75 degrees is about right...



if that doesn't work, then maybe they should raise energy prices, so that then people will be "forced" into learning how to be energy efficient so their finances don't get messed up...

Answer 11

You mean I have control over my thermostat ?

WOW ! it does move off from 68*

Are you in America ?

Answer 12

Is that even constitutional? if the government is gonna make a law the should at least abide by it!

Answer 13

This is not a strategy I agree with at all.



But the right-wing has brought it on themseles--as well as the rest of us. By constantly opposing any support for new technology,by cutting funds for research and giving the money as gifts to oil companies, and so on, they hhave created this crisis--and in califorinia it is a crisis.



We could be energy independant--but the GOP removed the programs and incentives for people to adopt energy-efficient systems. They've done nothing for 25 years while other countries surged ahead o fus in energy technology. They catered to the oil companies while we became more dependant on foriegn oil.



Now the chickens are coming home to roost. You asked for it.

Answer 14

government cant do any thing right or cheaper

Answer 15

That depends on what the "emergency event" is.

Answer 16

NO !!! it is none of there business.

Answer 17

you need to be happy about that resolution, because in some countries nobody cares about environment.