Question:
Global Warming IS NOT Caused By humans!?
Alec S
2008-06-01 21:23:20 UTC
Alright, this is through facts - Let me know what you think.

Global Warming IS Not Caused By Humans
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Global warming was said to be caused ONLY by humans because of our use of new technology which is casuing all sorts of gases to be released into the atmosphere which keeps the heat trapped more and more all the time.

But.. There have been many reports of ice-caps melting on mars and water is now seen on the moon. It all began near the same time our earth began to change.

So global warming is MAINLY because of changes in our sun.

Who agrees? Who disagrees?
Who has facts to prove me right or wrong??
Sixteen answers:
J S
2008-06-01 22:50:43 UTC
Global warming was NEVER said to be caused ONLY by humans.



In fact, past global climate changes have been studied in detail and they provide evidence of CO2-linked warming:



Climate Model Links Warmer Temperatures to Permian Extinction

http://www.physorg.com/news6003.html

"The CCSM indicated that ocean temperatures warmed significantly at higher latitudes because of rising atmospheric levels of carbon dioxide, a greenhouse gas."



There are a couple of different theories for why Mars may be warming, but none of the theories published in peer-reviewed scientific papers involve increased solar radiation, since that is known to have been decreasing recently.



"Wobbles in the orbit of Mars are the main cause of its climate change in the current era," Oxford's Wilson explained.

(Related: "Don't Blame Sun for Global Warming, Study Says" [September 13, 2006].)

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/09/060913-sunspots.html



According to researcher, Lori Fenton:



"Our Nature article had some press coverage, and some who heard the news would like to attribute our modeled warming (of 0.65° C or 1.2° F) over the 20 year period to changes in solar output, but our work doesn't involve any such changes. The warming we have modeled is caused by changes on the surface of Mars, rather than by any changes in the Sun. Furthermore, the climate forcing process we have identified is caused by the redistribution of bright dust over a darker surface, a process which does not occur on Earth (at least not to such a magnitude that it influences the global climate system). Earth does undergo albedo changes that impact the climate, but the controlling processes are quite different -- such as changes in cloud cover, sea ice, and vegetation. Thus the warming we have modeled is caused by a process that is unique to Mars, and nothing in our work can be used to make inferences about climate change on Earth. I hope this clears up any confusion to the layperson."

http://humbabe.arc.nasa.gov/~fenton/
Christopher Michael
2008-06-02 02:07:50 UTC
You aren't talking about some dead celestial body or a planet that has so little gravity that it cant sustain its own atmosphere here. Earth is much more complex and requires a much more balanced ecosystem to keep the climate this way, The atmosphere on Mars protects nothing from Gamma radiation and the moon has no atmosphere whatsoever. Earth on the other hand has a composite buildup of different gasses that allow some ultraviolet rays to pass though keeping the planet at a constant climate but reflects most of it out into space. Mars, the moon and Earth are not anywhere close to being the same.



The more methane, carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gasses you allow into the atmosphere the more heat is retained and the less we are protected from the UV radiation. Those gasses are slowly turning the planet into a microwave. Put an atmosphere (sustainable and with a common makeup) on Mars and then see what you find. I guarantee you wont be playing the same tune.
renetta
2016-05-23 12:58:35 UTC
Yes. There is natural greenhouse gas warming, that is what makes the planet livable. The issue is 'are humans increasing the temperature above its natural level'. The answer is YES. There is no doubt about that. Nor should we expect anything else given the huge impacts we are making. It is not anything to do with humans breathing, or respiring.....that is just recycling carbon in the carbon cycle. It has no impact. Deniers and others deliberately use that in an attempt to confuse the argument. The issue is human destruction of forests and other eco systems reducing the biosphere's capacity to absorb carbon and of course adding the stored carbon in forests to the cycle plus the addition of carbon from fossil fuels that has not been part of the cycle for many millions of years. It is these additions of previously excluded carbon that is increasing the carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere and this contributes to AGW. If we sit back and allow business as usual we will be compounding the problem and pushing the planet to a point where the costs to us will be enormous. The Earth will survive of course, but human society as we know it won't. Alternatively we can take action now to reduce the amount of additional carbon we pump into the environment and avoid the worst results. Every year we delay will make the actions required to prevent disaster more draconian and more expensive. The sooner we act the easier the transition. The policy advocated by some, of lets just wait until we can clearly see the problem, is one that dooms our children. Given the time delays in the system, action now results in effects 20 years and more later, it will be way too late
antarcticice
2008-06-01 23:21:12 UTC
To start, global warming exists, if it didn't the temperature of the Earth would be ~-20c the AGW theory only states that we have added enough to the natural gases to cause a 2-3c temp rise by the end of the century.



There are several problems with the Mars & Moon theory

The Mars theory started a while ago this being one source.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html

But this basically states the theory has no support in the science community.

The Moon theory, Huh, don't need to check this one at all, the moon is a vacuum, water can not exist in a vacuum no way round that it's basic physics, any high school science pupil could tell you that.
Michael Q
2008-06-01 22:43:25 UTC
The carbon dioxide emissions has had some effect on global warming, but I have doubts that it'll cause the cataclysm that so many politicians are predicting.



The two biggest factors that would change the global climate is if we moved the continents around. If Antarctica was moved away from the south pole where it cannot store ice, and there was a flowing seaway at the equator of the Earth, then we would return to those sweltering, hot conditions in the time of the dinosaurs.
arjun s
2008-06-01 23:06:56 UTC
u may b right, but it is seen that both naturaly and by human sources greenhouse gases are released into the atmosphere. take the time of dinosaurs even then there existed a gas layer which trapped heat in the atmosphere, this layer was produced by these natural causes but recent development in technology has drastically increased the size of this layer thus causing global warming. people like you are still the cause in global warming rate increase, so y not js get off ur lazy butt n do something about it without complaining.



oh n the sun's activity has remained constant for over a billion years and it still is.this is FACT
Zork
2008-06-01 21:48:06 UTC
Eeree Meeree (hello) Earthling,



We are aliens from a galaxy far, far away. We are stuck here on planet Earth because a "Bubba" shot out intergalactic energy booster. We have decided to stay and help Earthlings save the planet from Didiot Earthlings.



It has been proven by over 2,000 Earthling scientists across the world that humans are causing global climate change. Even your Earthling Pope agrees. Al Gore won the Nobel prize along with many other scientists for telling the "inconvenient truth," which is the fact that humans are causing global climate change and destruction of the habitat. At this pace there will be very little left by the end of this century.



Unless each person changes their habits, your generation will experience environmental issues similar to the issues faced by people on Easter Island. Read the history of Easter Island and you will see the potential future of this planet unless something happens drastically to change it. You and every Earthling on this planet can instantly change this by starting a green revolution.
Vincenz
2008-06-01 21:38:42 UTC
Its probably a combination of both. As human being we like to think that we have control over everything that happens with the world, but in fact the sun is the true master. Our reckless acts of pollution no doubt harm our planet. However, theres also the fact that the sun, like all stars, and most things on Earth for that matter, has a natural lifespan and that lifespan is past its peak. While humanity will surely no longer be here when the sun reaches that end, the billions of year that it takes to die will bring radical and natural changes to the entire solar system.
2008-06-01 21:53:02 UTC
The one big problem with that statement is.....global warming and cooling have been the trend for the last few billion years.



This current global warming episode started 18,000 years ago. And that I recall there were no automobiles back then.



Current temperatures are back to where they were between the years of 900-1300's. Then a little ice age occurred up to around the 1700's. We've started warming back up since then.



That's not to say that our pollutants are not having any effect .
Mudit G
2008-06-01 22:20:24 UTC
First of all I want to say that no one ever found water on the moon.The new space shuttle X3 70 landed on mars last week (25-2) june which was sent by Nasa and it's digging 100 of meters below the surface of mars to find water and to see if there is any sign of any living organisms in that planet.I and most of the other people like Bill Gates and many other major people who helped to donate money to countries which were hit by disasters say "global warming is caused only and only becouse of us people".We just cant blame the nature to be the cause of Global Warming.I mean its impossible for someone to say taht Global warming was caused by the nature itself not by the humans.Its us all who made holes in the ozone layer,killed billions of fishes in the seas because of spilling oil as if no one cares .it is us who reduced the amount of trees growing today by a huge percentage,it is us who killed 100 of animals just to make money.We all did this not the nature.Moreover it's rthe nature which is suffering because of the laziness of all of us.Its all because of us!!!!
Dana1981
2008-06-02 12:34:15 UTC
"Global warming was said to be caused ONLY by humans"



Strawman argument. Nobody who knows what they're talking about is making this claim. No climate scientists say humans are the only cause of global warming.



As for global warming on Mars, see Myth #4 here: http://greenhome.huddler.com/wiki/global-warming-myths



As for how we know *most* of the *current* global warming is being caused by humans, see here: http://greenhome.huddler.com/wiki/global-warming-and-climate-change-causes
2008-06-01 22:40:50 UTC
Nibiru or planet x is approaching, its path is right behind the sun in a way, we cant see it bcuz its right behind the sun in our point of view, its a very dense planet, gravitational force is intense, its path passes VERY close to the sun thus obviously it affects it causing the sun to realease more rays etc, and yes mars and other planets r being affected by it in fact our moon was stolen from them! hehehe

read The 12th Planet by Sitchin ull understand what im talking about
2008-06-01 21:41:11 UTC
Here's a link to ALL the global warming myths!

http://greenhome.huddler.com/wiki/global-warming-myths
joecool123_us
2008-06-01 21:31:02 UTC
"water is now seen on the moon"\



When did this happen, do you have a source?
2008-06-01 21:28:39 UTC
"But natural disasters don't necessarily cause human tragedies. It's morally lazy to blame nature for human tragedies."





i totally believe global warming is caused my humans
Tsunami
2008-06-01 21:29:04 UTC
gosh never heard that one will have to check it out.


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